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Method Why are Pentobarbital favored over other methods?

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Hello guys.
I don’t know if this has been asked before but I’m curious regarding the favoritism of pentobarbital compared to Sodium Nitrite or say any other peaceful methods that are more easily achievable.

Would it be really worth it to go the extra mile and possibly commit a crime in order to obtain Pentobarbital? Would it really make that much of a difference
 
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SN is apparently really painful. Maybe less painful than like burning yourself alive, but I certainly don't want to vomit to death and get cured inside out like a Christmas ham.

Pentobarbital is supposed to be relatively painless, fast, and easier than certain other methods like getting a gun or overdosing on street drugs. Professional euthanasia organizations in Europe use it with great success, and even a typical local vet uses it to peacefully euthanize sick pets.

Yes it's illegal, but what method isn't? Jumping off buildings would be trespassing in my area, ODing on heroin is illegal, purposefully drowning in restricted beaches isn't exactly right, and in order to get hit by a car you'd have to be jaywalking. Don't even get started on owning a gun in certain states! Not to mention a lot of the other "painless" methods are not actually painless or accessible. Exit bags can be hit-or-miss, CO2 could kill other people in the same structure as you, hanging is incredibly painful if done wrong and difficult to get right.

Some people just value the ease and painlessness of N. Anyways how would a judge even react to an N trafficking trial? If the person just sits there like "yeah, I illegally possessed a drug for the sole purpose of killing myself and all the evidence proves this," I wonder how harsh of a sentence they'd even get. People have gotten away with much worse so I don't think it'd be the sorta thing that gets you put on a 30 year sentence or anything.
 
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N is painless and peaceful. It’s used in the assisted suicide clinics so it’s the good stuff
I don’t have access to N and don’t have enough money to try and get it so I settled for SN
 
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SN is apparently really painful. Maybe less painful than like burning yourself alive, but I certainly don't want to vomit to death and get cured inside out like a Christmas ham.
Oh shit!

Is this true?
 
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according to ppeh it is not that bad. worse than N but still ok
It was described above, or at least hinted at, as being very painful...!
 
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I would argue that barbiturates are the same as inert gas in terms of peacefullness. The latter has a little more preparation, but is legal and more cost effective. I would still love to have N. Hell, if I was ready to go, I'd just get the liquid form.
 
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Oh shit!

Is this true?
From documented accounts on here, it's not true. The most severe pain is shortness of breath and a headache. It probably isn't fun, but it wouldn't involve pain you haven't experienced before.
 
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I would argue that barbiturates are the same as inert gas in terms of peacefullness. The latter has a little more preparation, but is legal and more cost effective. I would still love to have N. Hell, if I was ready to go, I'd just get the liquid form.
I read that N can cause vomiting, but I've also read that users may lose consciousness before vomiting. I wouldn't mind vomiting if N takes effect beforehand, such that the vomiting is either not painful or I'm unconscious at the time of vomiting.
 
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I read that N can cause vomiting, but I've also read that users may lose consciousness before vomiting. I wouldn't mind vomiting if N takes effect beforehand, such that the vomiting is either not painful or I'm unconscious at the time of vomiting.
This is the only turn-off for me. I don't like the idea of vomiting, but antiemetics are a part of the procedure I'm sure. I've been wondering whether injecting N would be even faster.
 
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It was described above, or at least hinted at, as being very painful...!
Having read the testimonials of people going out with SN here (there are these two excellent google docs) and other sources on this board, it doesn't really seem to be the case.

However, I am still apprehensive about it, because at the end of the day you are poisoning yourself. It does appear that unconsciousness settles in before you get to experience any major pain resulting from organ failure. My concern is about how much pain we actually endure after becoming unconscious, and whether people who drunk SN to CTB indeed fell unconscious or just became unresponsive. There is an account from a user who witnessed another's CTB through SN, and her last words were apparently "fuck, fuck, fuck" before she drifted away. Was she in pain? Was it just the awareness of death approaching?

Still, from the methods available to me (ie. anything but firearms, N or F), I'd still pick SN. I sometimes still ponder hanging, because at least with hanging I know what kind of pain to expect.

I know you have your SN on the way. Make sure to read this thread: https://sanctionedsuicide.com/threads/sn-resource-page.32633/ (especially the 2 google docs on successes and failures in section 2).

I've been wondering whether injecting N would be even faster.
Apparently it would be difficult to administer the lethal dose yourself, because you would pass out too early.
 
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Cured like a Christmas ham from the inside? This is so remarkably uninformed and just plain wrong that I Actually laughed.

I thought your post was satire until I read a bit more.
 
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Do you think taking a painkiller would help or nah?

Tbh I don’t mind a bit of pain as long as the death is guaranteed
 
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Has this been proven, or just assumed?
It was discussed here, among other places: https://sanctionedsuicide.com/threads/nembutal-self-administered-by-iv.16403/#post-669432

The problem is that N is too dilute whilst retaining high potency per mL (the required amount of powder would have to be diluted in 50mL, and the liquid form is commonly supplied in 100mL bottles).

It can be done with a drip, but that requires a whole new level of skill to perform on oneself and it does not have 100% reliability (there is the off chance that the gravity-powered setup becomes disturbed) unless you have a pump.
 
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It was discussed here, among other places: https://sanctionedsuicide.com/threads/nembutal-self-administered-by-iv.16403/#post-669432

The problem is that N is too diluted (the required amount of powder would have to be diluted in 50mL, and the liquid form is commonly supplied in 100mL bottles).

It can be done with a drip, but that requires a whole new level of skill to perform on oneself and it does not have 100% reliability (there is the off chance that the gravity-powered setup becomes disturbed) unless you have a pump.
That’s unfortunate. It works much better through injection.
 

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