What have you tried to get better before you reach this point? (self-help books, drugs, spirituality, positivity etc)

Daisy

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Hi, ( if there is already a thread about this same exact subject, please redirect me )

what have you tried ? and why do you think you failed?

In my case, I have read tons and tons of eastern philosophical books (Lao tzu, Buddha, osho) and western too ( diogenes the dog, Nietzsche) and some religious books (sufism in islam) and some philosophical poetry also.

I tried meditation, yoga, antidepressants, aromatherapy, therapeutic art. I went to therapy for about a year.

I tried positive thinking/focus to create my reality (it was 5 years ago, when I was stupid) (it's not that I think it's impossible to change my reality, it's just that I no longer wish for anything at all since everything comes back to the same thing… me)

I did find a lot of answer by reading all these books and trying all these things, but more than anything, they made me realize how absurd this society is, in fact it left me even more suicidal.
 
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Jodes

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Same, more or less. Less yoga lol. But wasn't surprised to learn that reading politics can cause suicidality, so damned if you do, damned if you don't. And I think politics is a disgusting sign of the underhanded* necessities (and the consequences) for handling human depravity.
 

Daisy

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when i tried drugs for my mental problems they left me permanently impotent and emotionless
are you talking about illegal drug or medication?

if it's medication, this is really scary. I hear so many people saying that they life has been destroyed because of anxiety/depression medications and this makes me really angry. If this is true, then pharmacies are making money off of our suffering while being aware of the dangers
 

YukiFox

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Dec 8, 2018
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1. Being a prevention activist since a great beloved friend died by suicide since 6 years ago. It failed because I feel I was hypocrite because I'm still want to kill myself but at the same time not doing it for respecting the memory of my friend.
  1. Being more pious on a series of churches, specifically Adventist Church and Pentecostal-based church. But at a same point I lost my faith on the christian god.
  2. Trying to thinking about a probable career as author: imagine my published books, talking about them, make the readers glad with my stories, etc. That is the only reason I still in this world, because I believe on my talent, despite not being published yet. Still, that not failed yet, but some days that premise was challenged for my mental crisis.
  3. My new, eclectic faith on Godesses. I try a lot of meditation and mantras to worship the Hindu and Buddhist Godesses and Dakinis (Dakinis are enlightened women on Tibetan buddhism), with the hope to search relief and meaning as a Godesses daughter. Also, I want to be a witch, a sorceress. Again, that still not failed.
Despite this points, I'm about a 50% of chance of die by suicide someday.
 

Roberto

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Hi, ( if there is already a thread about this same exact subject, please redirect me )

what have you tried ? and why do you think you failed?

In my case, I read tons and tons of eastern philosophical books (Lao tzu, Buddha, osho) and western too ( diogenes the dog, Nietzsche) and some religious books (sufism in islam) and some philosophical poetry also.

I tried meditation, yoga, antidepressants, aromatherapy, therapeutic art. I went to therapy for about a year.

I tried positive thinking/focus to create my reality (it was 5 years ago, when I was stupid) (it's not that I think it's impossible to change my reality, it's just that I no longer wish for anything at all since everything comes back to the same thing… me)

I did find a lot of answer by reading all these books and trying all these things, but more than anything, they made me realize how absurd this society is, in fact it left me even more suicidal.
I tried antidepressant, and even shamans with Ayahuasca rituals.
 

Mybattle

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are you talking about illegal drug or medication?

if it's medication, this is really scary. I hear so many people saying that they life has been destroyed because of anxiety/depression medications and this makes me really angry. If this is true, then pharmacies are making money off of our suffering while being aware of the dangers
This forum is filled with people like that, including me
 

Daisy

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This forum is filled with people like that, including me
But for how long did you use the medication?

I used mine for about 3 weeks and it was a very low dose. My doctor said it'd take 2 months for me to feel the effects so I just stopped because I was lazy and couldn't wait 2 months
 

Help_Me

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Hello, Daisy. I tried reading a few motivational books, i tried drugs and medications, psychiatry, i tried changing my life style, i tried gym (pretty good thing if you just want to be a bit healthier, but this won't help you to get rid of mental problems).
 

Jodes

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But for how long did you use the medication?

I used mine for about 3 weeks and it was a very low dose. My doctor said it'd take 2 months for me to feel the effects so I just stopped because I was lazy and couldn't wait 2 months
O.o
 

Dead beat dad

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Mar 5, 2019
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Hi, ( if there is already a thread about this same exact subject, please redirect me )

what have you tried ? and why do you think you failed?

In my case, I have read tons and tons of eastern philosophical books (Lao tzu, Buddha, osho) and western too ( diogenes the dog, Nietzsche) and some religious books (sufism in islam) and some philosophical poetry also.

I tried meditation, yoga, antidepressants, aromatherapy, therapeutic art. I went to therapy for about a year.

I tried positive thinking/focus to create my reality (it was 5 years ago, when I was stupid) (it's not that I think it's impossible to change my reality, it's just that I no longer wish for anything at all since everything comes back to the same thing… me)

I did find a lot of answer by reading all these books and trying all these things, but more than anything, they made me realize how absurd this society is, in fact it left me even more suicidal.
Hi sister, respect to you for trying so many different things and having some measured judgement.
I've tried antidepressants, which while have caused some awful and permanent side effects actually saved my life I believe (ironic given my current disposition).
I've been in and out of therapy for most of my life and that has had limited success, which to answer your question about why it failed; I've never been able to be fully honest with therapists, I don't want them to section me or some something for saying how I really feel and this has I think been a barrier to progress.
I also did a bunch of recreational drugs and alcohol and while these and other activities provide some relief to the symptom they do nothing for the cause (and in some cases do more harm than good).
I wish you peace on your path sister, good luck.
DBD
 

Mybattle

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But for how long did you use the medication?

I used mine for about 3 weeks and it was a very low dose. My doctor said it'd take 2 months for me to feel the effects so I just stopped because I was lazy and couldn't wait 2 months
Its a long story, medications work for many, or work temporary. They have worked for me but then they turned on me. Also I have not been instructed and guided well... For a minority but still a very large number of people meds destroyed their brain and had the opposite effect.

Also keep in mind nobody really knows what the hell these pills EXACTLY do in the brain. They just gamble... And sometimes U can lose big ,not them...
 
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FTL.Wanderer

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Yes. Many years. Many methods. Religious. Professional mental health. Psychiatric/pharmaceutical. Hospitalization. Self-help books, DVD's. Pricey life coaches. Group and one-on-one talk therapy. Cognitive & dialectical behavioral therapy. Bilateral high voltage ECT. And here I am.
 

dandan

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Medications - anti depressants, anti psychotic , benzos, , I think all of them

Psychiatrys and psychologists - years

Electro-Convulsive Therapy

Daily Excercise for months and months

Steroids

Yoga - Meditation retreats

NLP

Possitive thinking and afirmations

Responsability and acting ... Human Transformation Course

Reading and Reading

Drinking my own pee

Having a good Eating and Sleeping Habit

5HTP and other pills not medication

Drugs, and recreational drugs

Solfeggio frequencies

Even a device wich gives very subtle electro therapy through the earlobes... it was made by a man and sold through the internet.. like a home Electro-convulsive therapy at low voltage

I've tried Love :) having a partner and being in love

I have tried living with it and acceptance... it is hard any way...


oh yeah shrooms, and LSD therapy


and I currently do not drink alcohol and or do drugs, not even weed, that puts me worse
 
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ZiggyStardust

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most of the above, no pills because apparently I am not clinically depressed, I just have a morbid obsession with CTB. It is like there are two minds operating at the same time - one can be in a state of bliss and the other one insists that CBT is perfectly normal and reasonable. Maybe I am depressed but not in any textbook style.
 
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Allegory

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I’ve had 19 therapists and at least 15 psychiatrists. I participated in 4 psychotherapy groups over 5 years, did Dialectical Behavior therapy for about 2 years, and spent thousands of dollars on transcranial magnetic stimulation. I've been on over a dozen medications and I was involuntarily hospitalized twice. I’ve called the suicide hotline numerous times (they hung up on me at least twice and one volunteer told me that I would go to hell if I killed myself).

I'm not religious but my family has sent me to faith healers and forced me to spend hours praying for a cure.

I asked a previous therapist about when I could give up and he said, “Never.” I don’t agree. I’ve spent years of my life and thousands of dollars “seeking help" and it has only gotten worse. I have no fight left in me and no real reason to live.

People say that you should "reach out" and "seek help" but that has only lead to rejection, judgement, and failure to get better.

I get angry when I think about all the money I wasted trying to get better. Nembutal is cheap in comparison.
 
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Allegory

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Medications - anti depressants, anti psychotic , benzos, , I think all of them

Psychiatrys and psychologists - years

Electro-Convulsive Therapy
A doctor recommended electroconvulsive therapy for me. I refuse to try it because I am afraid of developing permanent problems with memory and cognition. Did you experience any long term side effects from ECT?
 
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Gray Wounds

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i tried alcohol, eating, wushu. but back then, i didn't even know that i'm depressed already only when i'm already suicidal and have been told by a psychologist that i indeed have been depressed and is already suicidal.
 

dandan

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A doctor recommended electroconvulsive therapy for me. I refuse to try it because I am afraid of developing permanent problems with memory and cognition. Did you experience any long term side effects from ECT?
Sure, for starters a lot of my memory from that time of life got erased....

and my personality changed a lot... similar to the father of a friend of mine, my friend says he's father's life was taken away.... similar to me, not recommended, in my opinion
 

zadig777

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are you talking about illegal drug or medication?

if it's medication, this is really scary. I hear so many people saying that they life has been destroyed because of anxiety/depression medications and this makes me really angry. If this is true, then pharmacies are making money off of our suffering while being aware of the dangers
yes its from anxiety medications
legal ones
where do u find so many people complaining about this problem?
 

Daisy

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yes its from anxiety medications
legal ones
where do u find so many people complaining about this problem?
literally all over this forum and many people others than here, like in Facebook groups, youtube comments, my mother etc
where do u find so many people complaining about this problem?
also, you should read this article "the mental system, the land of no return" : https://tealswan.com/teals-blog/the-mental-health-system-the-land-of-no-return-r550/
 
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zadig777

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literally all over this forum and many people others than here, like in Facebook groups, youtube comments, my mother etc


also, you should read this article "the mental system, the land of no return" : https://tealswan.com/teals-blog/the-mental-health-system-the-land-of-no-return-r550/
what happened to ur mom? :/
Google "negative effects of psychotropic drugs."
its not about googling
its about reality
whats the % of these things happening
is it very very rare??
is it like 1-5% or 5-10% for permanent side effects from this drugs?

the first few antidepressants didnt give me permanent side effects
but after the 4/5th AD i got permanent side effects :/
 
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Daisy

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what happened to ur mom? :/
She's been on medication for a very long time, she will sometimes complains about it and say it has made her less mentally alert, how she's having trouble stopping, how she feels numbs/confused/light headed or experience insomnia stuff like that. As someone with anxiety, I never really listen or take her seriously when she says stuff like that because I experience these too… so idk, but if so many people say the same thing about it, It makes me wonder (apparently it gets better with meds, then it gets worse)
 
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DrownedOctopus

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I’ve done everything under the sun lol.
Exercising, changing my diet, saffron, changing the way I think and react to things, meditation, yoga, talking to someone, have been to therapy, stopped smoking, stopped smoking pot, stopped drinking, stopped self harming, writing more, drawing more, reading more, hanging out with friends and family, doing things I find enjoyable, vacation, literally anything except medication.
Been this way since probably birth, longer than I can remember. I know when I found out that nobody else around me felt the same as I do, I felt really awkward around everyone else. Finally their thinking I was weird made sense, and it only made me feel worse about myself knowing it isn’t normal to want to be dead at 5 (which is the first year I really remember. The only thing earlier I remember is watching my grampa die when I was almost 2).
So my entire life I’ve been this way and have tried changing it, no such luck.
 

Allegory

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Sure, for starters a lot of my memory from that time of life got erased....

and my personality changed a lot... similar to the father of a friend of mine, my friend says he's father's life was taken away.... similar to me, not recommended, in my opinion
Thank you for sharing your experience. I'm sorry that you had to go through that.
 
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xXSarac3nSlay3rXx

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Has anybody tried shrooms? Apparently scientists themself regard them as effective.
I’d like to try them. Problem is, I live in the US, so they’re illegal. I don’t have any hookups from which to obtain them illegally either: fuck me.
-tried exercising

-tried talking to a shrink

-tried talking with close friends and parents

-tried taking meds (abilify, seroquel, lamictal, etc.)

-tried legal recreational drugs (kratom, DXM)

-looking to try ctb; they say that'll solve my problems for an eternity
 
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Nifi

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Reading carl jung helped me to see more value in life (still felt suicidal at times but it was bearable). Went to a therapist and she send me to a doc and he put me on sertraline. Now i'm basically lobotomized and castrated (PSSD). So yeah i've tried some things but now i'm already killed by an antidepressant.
 

GeorgeJL

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Hi, ( if there is already a thread about this same exact subject, please redirect me )

what have you tried ? and why do you think you failed?

In my case, I have read tons and tons of eastern philosophical books (Lao tzu, Buddha, osho) and western too ( diogenes the dog, Nietzsche) and some religious books (sufism in islam) and some philosophical poetry also.

I tried meditation, yoga, antidepressants, aromatherapy, therapeutic art. I went to therapy for about a year.

I tried positive thinking/focus to create my reality (it was 5 years ago, when I was stupid) (it's not that I think it's impossible to change my reality, it's just that I no longer wish for anything at all since everything comes back to the same thing… me)

I did find a lot of answer by reading all these books and trying all these things, but more than anything, they made me realize how absurd this society is, in fact it left me even more suicidal.
I know something you haven't tried yet that I have tried and benefited me quite a bit, psychedelics. You can buy them from Dream Marketplace with bitcoins. Personally I recommend 2C-B and 4-aco-dmt. But shrooms and LSD can be just as good. Do you know anything about psychedelics?
 

poof

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Hi, ( if there is already a thread about this same exact subject, please redirect me )

what have you tried ? and why do you think you failed?

In my case, I have read tons and tons of eastern philosophical books (Lao tzu, Buddha, osho) and western too ( diogenes the dog, Nietzsche) and some religious books (sufism in islam) and some philosophical poetry also.

I tried meditation, yoga, antidepressants, aromatherapy, therapeutic art. I went to therapy for about a year.

I tried positive thinking/focus to create my reality (it was 5 years ago, when I was stupid) (it's not that I think it's impossible to change my reality, it's just that I no longer wish for anything at all since everything comes back to the same thing… me)

I did find a lot of answer by reading all these books and trying all these things, but more than anything, they made me realize how absurd this society is, in fact it left me even more suicidal.
A lawyer...
 

sunny cat

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tried therapy, which helped a little but now i can’t see my therapist anymore. been on wellbutrin and lexapro for two years now, which kept me from developing full-blown agoraphobia but that isn’t working at all for me now. tried self medicating with various drugs, which helped a lot sometimes but life made those revelations and positive outlooks pointless.

really feels like there’s nothing i can do that won’t just be made void eventually. life sucks
 

Psilo

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I’d like to try them. Problem is, I live in the US, so they’re illegal. I don’t have any hookups from which to obtain them illegally either: fuck me.
Have considered trying to find some in the wild? It depends where exactly your from in the states but I know the world most potent psychoactive mushroom (Ps. Azurescens) grows abundantly in the North West of the states.

You guys in the states are so lucky!!!
Where I live their also illegal.

Magic shrooms grow almost all over the world, you just have to know how to find them.
 

PeacePlease

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are you talking about illegal drug or medication?

if it's medication, this is really scary. I hear so many people saying that they life has been destroyed because of anxiety/depression medications and this makes me really angry. If this is true, then pharmacies are making money off of our suffering while being aware of the dangers
My brain was destroyed by antidepressants
 
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Quinlor

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I always was a suicide and I recently caused a depressive event in my life. So first I looked a therapist but she was totally resilient in talk about suicide so I start to be here. I read a book about meditation and buddhism too.
 

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