[Venting] think quad ctb will have to work

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Y78

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im in a dead end now.
i plan to get f.

its going to be like this :

sit on the couch.
drink vodka 2 cups(400 ml)
take 5-6 sleeping pills (how much?which type?mg?)
stick 10 patches of 100 f
close with tape large trash bag on head (breath for half hour)

thats should be ok for ctb.

hope to fall a sleep .cause the f is very slow and the probalm if i not sleep is the nylon bag.

the cost of all its about 400 $ (about)

its now just a plan it will take a week or two to roll.
 
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Kumachan

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I like the idea of F patches but a bag to breathe for half an hour would have to be the size of a train car man...
 
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i dont know maybe its will be ok without the bag maybe a partial hanging will do (still a problam cause you sit on chair and dont drop or something)
 
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question - is there zero pain feeling after f ?
so i can try also cut myself without to feel it?
 
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question - is there zero pain feeling after f ?
so i can try also cut myself without to feel it?
I don't think opioids work quite like that, it will still be painful to cut yourself.
 
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im in a dead end now.
i plan to get f.

its going to be like this :

sit on the couch.
drink vodka 2 cups(400 ml)
take 5-6 sleeping pills (how much?which type?mg?)
stick 10 patches of 100 f
close with tape large trash bag on head (breath for half hour)

thats should be ok for ctb.

hope to fall a sleep .cause the f is very slow and the probalm if i not sleep is the nylon bag.

the cost of all its about 400 $ (about)

its now just a plan it will take a week or two to roll.

Damn...I totally assumed from your subject that you meant suicide on one of these... :smiling:

 
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I thought so too. The car + chain method has been used before with predictable results.

OP, not sure if you are a frequent user of fentanyl patches. There are two possible ways to speed up the release of F from them depending on type (heating pad or etoh injected in them). Im not going to comment on the etoh, but a heating pad is easy.

let me also just say that a large bag with “enough air” fails to account for rebreathing CO2. You won’t keep it on your head for 30 minutes if you are conscious because of this, regardless of the amount ofO2. there actually is a third way to speed up F release, namely buccal and sublingual absorption from a chewed patch in mouth. I’ve heard unconsciousness is quick with this method....
 
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a bag to breathe for half an hour would have to be the size of a train car
let me also just say that a large bag with “enough air” fails to account for rebreathing CO2. You won’t keep it on your head for 30 minutes if you are conscious because of this, regardless of the amount ofO2.
Authors of this article make calculation of safe time in an airtight room.
A moderately active or stressed person produces about 1.7 cubic feet of CO2 per hour.
Code:
Assuming a concentration of 3% CO2 is the highest safe limit, you can calculate how long a given number of people can stay in a given sized space before toxic levels of CO2 build up —

T = Number of hours before CO2 reaches toxic levels and your character(s) could die.

  (Volume of air inside the room in cu ft) x (3% or 0.03)

T = ---------------------------------------------------------

  (Number of people) x (one person's hourly production of CO2 in cu ft)

 

So, let’s see how that works for one person in a 10x10x10 (1000 cubic foot) space.

     (1000) x (.03)        30

T=   ------------     =   ----   = 17.64 HOURS

     (1) X (1.7)          1.7
If we use their calculations, but replace 0.03 (3%) with 0.01 (1%, CO2 concentration at the end of 1/2hour period, not pleasant but bearable) and evaluate volume for T=0.5, we'll get 85 cu ft (about 2,4m3). Something like furniture cover plastic bag may contain this volume.
 
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I’d probably just go with a hot air balloon. I’m aware such a volume is possible. I’m stating very few here who claim this have access to or do the calculations to find such a volume.
 
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IS heating the patch with a candle will work or it too hot? i need a hair dryer ?

in my place there are "quad car" and its very dangerus tool for a ride.dont know for ctb.

its 40 c here now ppl can ctb just form the heat lol :smiling::hmph:
 
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Heating pad over the patches, but I’d probably read everything I’ve written on this thread.
 
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IM afraid now after reading tihis
What needs to be done to help overdose survivors living ...
www.vancouverislandmentalhealthsociety.org › what-need...




לדף המתורגם
14 בינו׳ 2020 - Acquired Brain Injury and Opioid Overdose Community Dialogue in Nanaimo. Nanaimo ... Fentanyl overdose victim lives with brain damage.

there a small chance of being fucked up for life after fentanyl od

WHAT CAN I DO ? is partner will help or just i need to change method to sn?

im in a shithole now none is good option.

shit.
 
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Anything that kills you by stopping respiration by definition will result in brain damage on the way to death. Just like a drowning victim pulled out of the water may have permanent brain damage. The information in this thread is solid. Nothing says you can’t utilize multiple methods.

You may wish to entirely avoid discussing getting a partner. In many places in the world this is illegal and potentially classified as murder.
 
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Y78

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if i change the plan and getting
or bondromin or hipnodorm (whats beeter?)
combained with half litter alchol
and the plan is to fall a sleep with rope over head.
i know hipnodorm is very strong i tihink i will be blur and even sleep in half hour

will it work?
 
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my plan is in progress i have the money
im going to get sublet room for a week
and order form telegram what i need.

the costs are like this:

100 euro - supply.
250 euro - sublet room
50 euro - bondromin
400 euro - fentanyl 100 x 10

i need to think what to take to the room in my bag
(utilty knife;vomting nylon bag,a sheet,etc.)

also i will buy 1 litter of vodka
my favorite is finlandia and its cost about 15 euro.

hope not to vomit after pthcing the stickers so maybe i would take 10 bondromin pills and half litter alchol and just than patch
i dont want to kill my liver and not to fall sleep without patching.

i consider not to eat for 5 hours before patching.
 
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I don't understand this method. Why don't you go by the popular SN? Also instead of a bag in the head you might consider droning in a bathtub or pool once you go asleep
 
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Y78

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i will not put a bag.
its a "plus" to fentanyl
adding bondromin and alchol.

sn for me too risky.

bathtub is idea.dont know if patch affected by water.
 
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