[Resource] SN megathread

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Justinian

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How could someone as smart to study medicine be desirious of ctb? That seems strange to me
Apologies beforehand for posting something not necessarily related to SN but I just want to organise and type out my thoughts.

I know it's strange. But a few months ago the idea that life means suffering really struck me. I have stopped studying and basically have drowned myself in stupid entertainment since as I knew clearly I would ctb soon. I'm in what you call the preclinical years, only lectures so I can get away with not studying temporarily while I wait for my SN order to arrive. Growing up I did exceptionally well at school but I never knew what I want in life. There hasn't ever been anything in life that I am really passionate about and make me look forward to and it really matters.

If I look at the future, there are 30, 40 and maybe more years of endless work ahead. And I can already imagine how exhausting it will get after 36 hour shifts. I know for sure I won't see the day I practise but I suppose trying to prolong people's life and dragging people from death, often causing so much pain doing so, are exactly the opposite of my philosophy as well.

Here comes my antinatalist rant. I really wish I had never been born and it could be much easier. Life is a liability and burden forced upon every one of us. Everything in life is illusionary and pointless at the end, including things like love, family, friends etc, and to be honest we spend so much energy in averting pain and suffering. I really wish I could be one of those oblivious people gladly living in a bubble happy over ridiculous stuffs but at the end of the day my brain tells me the effort is not worth it. Call me depressed if you want but as far as I'm concerned my logic is still pretty sound and to me it seems a pretty reasonable response to what life has in store. Living feels like running a failing business, each day generates a net negative value. And even the so-called best lives are not worth living.

Clearly there are so many underprivileged people out there and I 'should be grateful'. The question of what keeps them hanging on, despite the odds obviously against their favour, bemuses me. And I also ask myself the question why do people keep giving birth willingly knowing that misery will propagate itself across generations.

I know personally that going to a nice school or having a nice career does not guarantee satisfaction in life. It probably could have been better if I could view things less pragmatic and less pessimistic but how can I possibly decide that. I blame 'bad genes' as I believe in genetic determinism. It's a really interesting theory tbh and can probably make people who want to ctb less guilty LOL

My plan is to ctb in June and at the moment I feel serene and at ease.

While here I am sharing my feelings and circumstances, I hope you who read this could do the same! ♥♥
 
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While here I am sharing my feelings and circumstances, I hope you who read this could do the same! ♥♥
Wow, you took the words out of my mouth! I agree with all the points you've made and conceptualized them in my mind before I read your post. You also write like you study in medicine :)
 
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From my understanding and what I've read, most people will have between 10-20 minutes after drinking the SN before they pass out. It seems most people experience mild pain, some worse than others, but nothing severe. I was just wondering, and I guess my question is partially directed at those who maybe attempted with SN before or those who have a lot of knowledge with it, will the pain likely be so bad that talking on the phone with someone is not feasible after taking the SN? I don't plan on doing anything dramatic, just talking with someone during my last moments as a means of comfort. Thanks for any help in advance!
 
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From my understanding and what I've read, most people will have between 10-20 minutes after drinking the SN before they pass out. It seems most people experience mild pain, some worse than others, but nothing severe. I was just wondering, and I guess my question is partially directed at those who maybe attempted with SN before or those who have a lot of knowledge with it, will the pain likely be so bad that talking on the phone with someone is not feasible after taking the SN? I don't plan on doing anything dramatic, just talking with someone during my last moments as a means of comfort. Thanks for any help in advance!
Read @Moonicide ’s Documented SN. Click here ctb as she was on a video call with lotus1818.
and read the SN attempts thread and you can see who has taken SN and their experience.
SN attempts click here
 
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PN (Exit International) asks in a podcast on May 17, 2020 is "SN the new N?" I put the link from vimeo here.Topic: Is SN the new N?
In this podcast on 5/17/20 , The author of the Peaceful Pill handbook Philip Nitschke says that they at exit international have received many eye witness SN ctb reports. Philip Nitschke said all the SN ctb reports show no signs of pain at all. So this further confirms what some of us saw on this website Sanctioned Suicide from these 16 cases of SN ctb attempt survivors who said that the SN method is painLess : Link is here: SN failures (16 cases).

This is the podcast:


Furthermore he says in the podcast that "SN is the new nembutal the holy grail".
 
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MeriDeath

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So currently I am being medicated with sertraline. Should I come off my medication before I CTB or can it actually be helpful and treat some of the SN symptoms? Anyone?
 
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MissKatrina

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Continue your medication. Suddenly stopping ssris can mentally and physically give you withdrawal symptoms. They suck bad. I’d recommend continuing meds normally. If you’re gonna take SN in the night and you take meds at night, it’s okay to skip. The less in your stomach the better. But if it’s a morning med continue it.
 
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So currently I am being medicated with sertraline. Should I come off my medication before I CTB or can it actually be helpful and treat some of the SN symptoms? Anyone?
I don't think it will help with SN symptoms. I hear anti psychotics cab help prevent vomiting, but sertraline would not do this.
 
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MissKatrina

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I just tried a few grains of SN coz I’m feeling crazy and it tastes like regular salt. Just surprised more than anything. I thought it’d feel lethal or potent or something but nope.
 
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A few grains vs grams is very different . Salting food can taste good and over salting food can cause you to throw it out
 
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blalost

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I have SN but it's hard for me to find a good source of anti-emetics. Do you guys think it's a really bad idea to do it without anti-emetics? I'm not really prone to vomiting. I haven't vomited for at least 5 years.
 
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LMLN

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I have SN but it's hard for me to find a good source of anti-emetics. Do you guys think it's a really bad idea to do it without anti-emetics? I'm not really prone to vomiting. I haven't vomited for at least 5 years.
I think, per Stan's guide, it is not absolutely necessary. You can search on this site for threads on other's that have used this method. Some have vomited despite meto, some have appeared to have succeeded without. I guess you have to decide based on your own experiences with likelihood of vomiting.
edited to add: some have succeeded despite vomiting.
 
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blalost

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Thanks. If I do it without anti-emetics, and it ends up failing, there isn't a big risk of permanent disabilities right? Because of brain damage or something.
 
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If you follow the fasting guidelines The only way to truly fail is to call for ems help or be discovered and an ems call is made for you. You need medical intervention with O2 snd methyl blue to recover.
brain damage is unlikely. If you know about AEs then you know where to find the guide and resources and should read as much as you can.
 
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blalost

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If you follow the fasting guidelines The only way to truly fail is to call for ems help or be discovered and an ems call is made for you. You need medical intervention with O2 snd methyl blue to recover.
brain damage is unlikely. If you know about AEs then you know where to find the guide and resources and should read as much as you can.
But if you do vomit, you could fail because of vomiting out Sodium Nitrite, not because you got rescued by other people? Or is it likely that you will still die even if you vomit a lot?
 
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Possibly if you vomit immediately and have anything in your stomach that could negate or absorb the SN but many have vomited and succeeded. This is why I steer people to the actual anecdotes to learn for yourself
@Erase.myself vomited a lot and supposedly succeeded while @Lion84 took 2 sips, changed his mind but passed bcuz ems took too long. Each person is going to vary in some way.
 
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Does anyone know if Zantac is a good enough anti acid? And could someone perhaps post a link to a post about obtaining benzo's? I would look this up myself but my search bar is broken and also when I try to enter some parts of the forum my PC is attacked by malware so I am having a bit of a hard time navigating around. Help would be very much appreciated!
 
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I have SN but it's hard for me to find a good source of anti-emetics. Do you guys think it's a really bad idea to do it without anti-emetics? I'm not really prone to vomiting. I haven't vomited for at least 5 years.
I think, per Stan's guide, it is not absolutely necessary. You can search on this site for threads on other's that have used this method. Some have vomited despite meto, some have appeared to have succeeded without. I guess you have to decide based on your own experiences with likelihood of vomiting.
edited to add: some have succeeded despite vomiting.
Possibly if you vomit immediately and have anything in your stomach that could negate or absorb the SN but many have vomited and succeeded. This is why I steer people to the actual anecdotes to learn for yourself
@Erase.myself vomited a lot and supposedly succeeded while @Lion84 took 2 sips, changed his mind but passed bcuz ems took too long. Each person is going to vary in some way.
In my personal opinion, I would strongly advise against doing it without antiemetics if you possibly can. Even if vomiting doesn't cause the attempt to fail, it is still an unpleasant and non-peaceful experience to have during your attempt.

It's important to understand that the vomiting in response to ingesting SN (or indeed any kind of poison) is an instinctive survival mechanism, and is not usually comparable to any kind of vomiting you may have (or may not have) experienced before. So relating the SN scenario back to your own past experiences or likelihood of vomiting is unfortunately not very useful.

While some anecdotes do show people vomiting even with antiemetics, or not vomiting even without antiemetics, it's important to remember that overall vomiting is still less likely if you take an antiemetic. See this analogy for a relevant example. While individual experiences will always differ somewhat, there are nonetheless commonalities explained by physiology, one of which being that antiemetics tend to make vomiting less likely.
 
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JACKSON

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I have round the clock acidity because of HIATUS HERNIA HILL GRADE-IV .....I daily take heavy PPI's .....can I ctb with SN....if yes, then how? Details plz.....
 
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MeriDeath

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So my question is, how to prevent the drowsiness after having taken the SN? Or it cant be avoided ? Is it really that bad of a feeling?
Also I would like to know if there's an OTC drug that can replace meto. I'm not sure it's that easy to obtain here.
 
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x-Ace-x

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So my question is, how to prevent the drowsiness after having taken the SN? Or it cant be avoided ? Is it really that bad of a feeling?
Also I would like to know if there's an OTC drug that can replace meto. I'm not sure it's that easy to obtain here.
Why do you want to prevent drowsiness? It doesn't cause any pain and this way you can know you will be unconscious soon and it's working.

Speaking of good OTC antiemetcs, not sure if there are any. I guess it would be better to use OTC than nothing but the power of it will definitely be not as strong as meto.
 
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Why do you want to prevent drowsiness? It doesn't cause any pain and this way you can know you will be unconscious soon and it's working.

Speaking of good OTC antiemetcs, not sure if there are any. I guess it would be better to use OTC than nothing but the power of it will definitely be not as strong as meto.
I don't find meto anywhere. Is there anything as strong as Meto?
What OTC means?
Domperidone can be obtained, does it work?
 
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x-Ace-x

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I don't find meto anywhere. Is there anything as strong as Meto?
What OTC means?
Domperidone can be obtained, does it work?
Meto - metoclopramide, otc - over the counter (no prescription required, easy to get). Domperidone is good as well cause it's a dopamine blocker. Please check the Stan's guide and SN FAQ. There are more antiemetics listed but I don't want to repeat the same information listed before.
 
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