SIMPLE BITCOIN BEGINNERS GUIDE

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one4all

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@jgm63 As also you have provided a very nice and informative guide! Thanks again! :sunglasses:

Bookmarked for future research
 
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Updated monero notes

To further increase anonymity, you can use monero (XMR).

1 Setup a coinbase or coinmama account and buy BTC
(see notes above for how to choose between coinbase and coinmama - there are various factors involved)
2 Setup a bitcoin wallet, eg wasabi or electrum (optional, but good idea)
3 If you carried out step 2, then transfer BTC from coinbase to bitcoin wallet

4 Setup an XMR wallet using “mymonero” (There are more “ideal” ways to create XMR wallets but they are more complex and it takes a long time for the synchronise process to complete)

5 Use morphtoken to buy XMR using BTC :
> send BTC to morphtoken from coinbase (or from your BTC wallet if you set one up)
> morphtoken will send XMR to your XMR wallet

If morphtoken is blocked in your region, try using the TOR browser (connect to the same morphtoken.com URL). Alternatively you could use a VPN (try connecting to a server in a different country, try different countries). Alternatively, try "changenow.io".

When asked for your "bitcoin refund address", you can simply give the address of your bitcoin wallet, which you should see if you click the "receive" button / tab (or similar).

6 If the vendor accepts monero, then pay the vendor from your XMR wallet

7 If the vendor doesn’t accept monero, then use “xmr.to” to send BTC to the marketplace / seller :
> send XMR to xmr.to from your XMR wallet
> xmr.to will send BTC to the marketplace / seller

If xmr.to is blocked in your region, try using the TOR browser (connect to the same xmr.to URL). Alternatively you could use a VPN (try connecting to a server in a different country, try different countries). Alternatively, use morphtoken or changenow.io (you might still need to use TOR or a VPN with those).

When asked for your "refund address", you can simply give the address of your mymonero wallet, which you should see if you click the "receive" button / tab (or similar).

In general, leave time gaps of at least 2 or 3 hours between each step.
You also want to vary the amounts of money being transferred.
You can do this by taking the final amount to be sent to the marketplace / seller, and adding say 10 to 15%.
You would then buy that increased amount in step 1 within coinbase.
Then when performing the transfer for step 3, reduce the amount being transferred by 2 or 3%.
And so on, reducing the amount at each step.
 
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Excellent again. As a Bitcoin expert myself this is brilliant and to the point.
 
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@jgm63 This is absolutely brilliant! Thank you for the information and your effort!
 
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Monero notes : payment with improved anonymity

OVERVIEW :
> Setup coinbase or coinmama account and buy BTC
> Setup bitcoin wallet, eg wasabi or electrum
> Transfer BTC from coinbase/coinmama to bitcoin wallet
> Setup XMR wallet using “mymonero”
> Use morphtoken website to buy XMR (send BTC to morphtoken from BTC wallet, morphtoken sends XMR to your XMR wallet)
> If vendor accepts monero, pay vendor from XMR wallet
> Otherwise use “xmr.to” website to send BTC to vendor (send XMR to xmr.to from XMR wallet, xmr.to sends BTC to vendor)

DETAIL :

General notes (not essential but may improve anonymity)
Leave time gaps of an hour or two between each step.
Vary the amounts of money being transferred, as follows :
> Take final amount to be sent to marketplace / seller, and add say 10 to 15%.
> Buy that increased amount in step 1.
> When performing the transfer for step 3, reduce the amount being transferred by 2 or 3%.
> And so on, reducing the amount at each step.

1 Setup a coinbase or coinmama account and buy BTC
(see these notes to choose between coinbase and coinmama, and further notes here)
2 Setup a bitcoin wallet, eg wasabi or electrum. If using coinbase this is optional, but a good idea. If using coinmama this is required (coinmama has no "built in" wallet).
3 If you carried out step 2, then transfer BTC from coinbase/coinmama to bitcoin wallet

4 Setup an XMR wallet using “mymonero” (There are more “ideal” ways to create XMR wallets but they are more complex and it takes a long time for the synchronise process to complete). You can download and install mymonero or access it as a web wallet (scroll to bottom of webpage, click "Quick access wallet online"). Note : you can't use TOR to access the mymonero website. Use a regular browser.

5 Use morphtoken website to buy XMR using BTC :
> send BTC to morphtoken from coinbase (or from your BTC wallet if you set one up)
> morphtoken will send XMR to your XMR wallet

If morphtoken is blocked in your region, try using the TOR browser (connect to the same morphtoken.com URL). Alternatively you could use a VPN (try connecting to a server in a different country, try different countries). Alternatively, try "changenow.io".

When asked for your "bitcoin refund address", you can simply give the address of your bitcoin wallet, which you should see if you click the "receive" button / tab (or similar).

6 If the vendor accepts monero, then pay the vendor from your XMR wallet

7 If the vendor doesn’t accept monero, then use “xmr.to” website to send BTC to the marketplace / seller :
> send XMR to xmr.to from your XMR wallet
> xmr.to will send BTC to the marketplace / seller

If xmr.to is blocked in your region, try using the TOR browser (connect to the same xmr.to URL). Alternatively you could use a VPN (try connecting to a server in a different country, try different countries). Alternatively, use morphtoken or changenow.io (you might still need to use TOR or a VPN with those).

When asked for your "refund address", you can simply give the address of your mymonero wallet, which you should see if you click the "receive" button / tab (or similar).
 
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enjolras

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Back when I was using XMR.to on a computer, it was publishing an Onion address to load the site via Tor
I just noticed they are swimming backwards. Situations are never frozen


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> If vendor accepts monero, pay vendor from XMR wallet
That’s the mother of all matters. It should be the starting point of utmost importance, that could turn everything upside down.
In the past, A expressed willingness to look after any coin suggestion. I can’t tell it’s the same person nowadays, that would be receptive, given the communication skills have drastically changed. C should be already familiar with it through EM.
The quest would be that peeps request to pay by Monero, until it’s accepted.
Then a Monero guide could be written, with several alternatives that are minimalistic in approach, very straight forward, yet optimised, more secured, using less services and tech setups.

edit : it seems you should recommend this URL as of now (clearnet no-JavaScript version), to load on Tor
https://xmr.to/nojs/
 
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Note...
Coinmama may have issues sending to bitcoin addresses starting with "bc1" (segwit / bech32 address).
Workaround :
> Use electrum (not wasabi)
> Create a new wallet (File / New)
> Select "Legacy" instead of Segwit, at the relevant step
In the new wallet, on the "Receive" tab, you should see an address starting with "1" (legacy / P2PKH address).
You should be able to buy bitcoin on coinmama using that address.