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Susan Caswell

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Ok so because of all the scammers that are around and also on our forum.
We need this tread as a reference.

Always double check a email if its correct.

The next link is of exit international for all scammers they know.

The Peaceful Pill Handbook
Nebutal Scams - The Peaceful Pill eHandbook is the product of more than a decade of hands-on research, development & teaching in the area of end-of-life planning strategies by Dr Philip Nitschke.
www.peacefulpillhandbook.com www.peacefulpillhandbook.com

Regarding our own members who manipulate and try to get money or convince people here to sell there supplies dont do it.
People like this are the next :

Blackjack:
she bought from member on this forrum their N. This dangerous and foolish to do you never know who someone really is.

Rachel74 :
She gave multiple emails saying it was Chinese bob.
Starting with D.... @ProtonMail and [email protected] alll FAKE FAKE FAKE Fake
If there are more member who fallen for Rachel74 lies tell us here in this tread.

So all scammers can be listed in this tread that we come across or if you want to be sure about something ask it here
Ok so because of all the scammers that are around and also on our forum.
We need this tread as a reference.

Always double check a email if its correct.

The next link is of exit international for all scammers they know.

The Peaceful Pill Handbook
Nebutal Scams - The Peaceful Pill eHandbook is the product of more than a decade of hands-on research, development & teaching in the area of end-of-life planning strategies by Dr Philip Nitschke.
www.peacefulpillhandbook.com www.peacefulpillhandbook.com

Regarding our own members who manipulate and try to get money or convince people here to sell there supplies dont do it.
People like this are the next :

Blackjack:
she bought from member on this forrum their N. This dangerous and foolish to do you never know who someone really is.

Rachel74 :
She gave multiple emails saying it was Chinese bob.
Starting with D.... @ProtonMail and [email protected] alll FAKE FAKE FAKE Fake
If there are more member who fallen for Rachel74 lies tell us here in this tread.

So all scammers can be listed in this tread that we come across or if you want to be sure about something ask it here
Did she say she would sell product and take the money and then no goods arrived
Ok so because of all the scammers that are around and also on our forum.
We need this tread as a reference.

Always double check a email if its correct.

The next link is of exit international for all scammers they know.

The Peaceful Pill Handbook
Nebutal Scams - The Peaceful Pill eHandbook is the product of more than a decade of hands-on research, development & teaching in the area of end-of-life planning strategies by Dr Philip Nitschke.
www.peacefulpillhandbook.com www.peacefulpillhandbook.com

Regarding our own members who manipulate and try to get money or convince people here to sell there supplies dont do it.
People like this are the next :

Blackjack:
she bought from member on this forrum their N. This dangerous and foolish to do you never know who someone really is.

Rachel74 :
She gave multiple emails saying it was Chinese bob.
Starting with D.... @ProtonMail and [email protected] alll FAKE FAKE FAKE Fake
If there are more member who fallen for Rachel74 lies tell us here in this tread.

So all scammers can be listed in this tread that we come across or if you want to be sure about something ask it here
How can we know if someone is genuine its so hard when your so desperate and someone offers to help
Oh wow. I almost bought from her.
Please could you pm me im concerned can you tell me e mail they used I would like to get some help from you theres something I would like need to share as a matter of urgency thank you in anticipation
Thats ok.
But this situation is bigger then most people think. She had alot of contact
Do we know if she is still operating how can we know if someone is genuine and just wants to help us
I think there is at least one more in play at the moment.
Do we know we please
 
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Wow what you wrote on OP i read it and realized it sounded very familiar since i once tried to order pills.. first sign i should have known was that the person has sent me a message and not me to him ,and he had an offshore account too and when he told me to finally meet he called it off saying that "his boy" was caught by the cops and that now they had photo of me and so on and that I'd have to pay money to get his friend out of there.. and for every day that passed i had to pay more and i ended up loosing more than 15 thousand shekels :( sometimes you learn the hard way than anything else .. he told me that hed pay me back every single penny ! Nothing ,nada :(
 
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Did she say she would sell product and take the money and then no goods arrived

How can we know if someone is genuine its so hard when your so desperate and someone offers to help

Please could you pm me im concerned can you tell me e mail they used I would like to get some help from you theres something I would like need to share as a matter of urgency thank you in anticipation

Do we know if she is still operating how can we know if someone is genuine and just wants to help us

Do we know we please
There's no single easy answer to these questions.
You just have to try to figure out who seems trustworthy, based on their history of posts, but there are no guarantees.
If multiple people who seem trustworthy all give you the same information, then that can help to increase confidence level.....
e.g. if they all give you the same email address for a contact, etc.
Email addresses have to be checked and compared carefully.
Sometimes a scammer will change one letter / character, and if you're not paying attention then you might miss it.
Another option would be to signup to the online peaceful pill handbook and pay for the access.

Feel free to PM me if you want.
 
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I was wondering if this is possibly a scam. On the dark web, a website wants to handle payment via bitcoin, with two-factor authentication (I think?). There's the client, the website admin or whatever, and the "contractor" let's say. Two out of three have to confirm after the deal is done, then the money is transfered. They make it sound like the fairest thing, and out in the public that may be so, but since this is dark web dealings, can't it simply be there even isn't a "contractor" and it's just the same person? So ultimately money is as good as gone the second I set the payment up, and it's not even like two people would have to conspire against me.

Just asking because as it probably shows I don't know much about this (dark web, crypto, etc) and when I looked up two factor authentication scam, different things popped up.
 
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I was wondering if this is possibly a scam. On the dark web, a website wants to handle payment via bitcoin, with two-factor authentication (I think?). There's the client, the website admin or whatever, and the "contractor" let's say. Two out of three have to confirm after the deal is done, then the money is transfered. They make it sound like the fairest thing, and out in the public that may be so, but since this is dark web dealings, can't it simply be there even isn't a "contractor" and it's just the same person? So ultimately money is as good as gone the second I set the payment up, and it's not even like two people would have to conspire against me.

Just asking because as it probably shows I don't know much about this (dark web, crypto, etc) and when I looked up two factor authentication scam, different things popped up.
I did a search here using the words dark web. Here’s a post i found that might help
It gets a bit derailed but look at the posts between terry Davis and bulldogbitch.
also do a search yourself for things like dark net, cryptocurrency etc.. theres a lot of info here.
 
mx5nb3

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DISCLAIMER: This scam is not on the thread, nor is it related to the thread. This is just a scam I experienced recently.

It was a car decal advertising scam. They get your info, send you a check, claiming that it is your first week of pay and the rest is for the 'agent' that will install the decal/ad on your car.

The check will go through, and you can cash it, withdraw, spend. DO NOT contact the 'agent' who will install the decal. They will ask for a wire transfer, get your bank info, take the money, and vanish.

They vanish because they made you a bullshit check, got their cut of it anonymously, and got out of there before the bank noticed its a bad check. The bank will require YOU to pay back the funds acquired, and you may also face criminal charges!

I know of this scam because I played along to one and im now using money from it to reserve my hotel room and enjoy my last few days. $1900 is no joke, fun for a little splurge prior to death. Going out like a king, 2 nights reserved in a somewhat high end hotel and eating out every day for a week.

Yeah bank, have fun trying to get your money back! Im long gone! Haha. Cant follow me to my grave.
 
Lorntroubles

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DISCLAIMER: This scam is not on the thread, nor is it related to the thread. This is just a scam I experienced recently.

It was a car decal advertising scam. They get your info, send you a check, claiming that it is your first week of pay and the rest is for the 'agent' that will install the decal/ad on your car.

The check will go through, and you can cash it, withdraw, spend. DO NOT contact the 'agent' who will install the decal. They will ask for a wire transfer, get your bank info, take the money, and vanish.

They vanish because they made you a bullshit check, got their cut of it anonymously, and got out of there before the bank noticed its a bad check. The bank will require YOU to pay back the funds acquired, and you may also face criminal charges!

I know of this scam because I played along to one and im now using money from it to reserve my hotel room and enjoy my last few days. $1900 is no joke, fun for a little splurge prior to death. Going out like a king, 2 nights reserved in a somewhat high end hotel and eating out every day for a week.

Yeah bank, have fun trying to get your money back! Im long gone! Haha. Cant follow me to my grave.
It's not necessarily related but will make others aware of what to watch out for in regards to scams and purchasing from a vendor.

No legit place is going to straight out send you money and then ask for banking info/for you to put it in your bank. It's a catch.

Having to go through "middle men" raises a red flag. Does it mean 100% scam? Not necessarily but know the more things are passed along, the more it smells of a scam.

Be on the lookout.

Wire transfers are a popular method for scammers. They want the easiest way to get your money and don't care WTF happens on your end.
 
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mx5nb3

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It's not necessarily related but will make others aware of what to watch out for in regards to scams and purchasing from a vendor.

No legit place is going to straight out send you money and then ask for banking info/for you to put it in your bank. It's a catch.

Having to go through "middle men" raises a red flag. Does it mean 100% scam? Not necessarily but know the more things are passed along, the more it smells of a scam.

Be on the lookout.

Wire transfers are a popular method for scammers. They want the easiest way to get your money and don't care WTF happens on your end.
Perhaps i wasnt clear. This scam doesnt ask you for bank info to deposit the check, they ask you for info AFTER the check is deposited, to send some of the money to the 'middle man'. Once the funds are wired(usually most of the check), the scammers are gone, and the bank will overdraw your account. You will be responsible for all funds that were lost, meanwhile the scammers are out enjoying some dirty cash. Anyhow thank you for your response, and I apologize for being kinda uptight. Need to vent and im letting it out a bit here. I apologize. Take care Lorntroubles
 
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There is a youtuber I have had contact with regarding scams (Jim Browning , he really knows tech), I have tipped off a few darknet scams and within a week they're gone, he's like a grey-hat hacker but can (CAN, NOT WILL) help if you feel like you've been scammed.
Very good resource of info on scammers if you visit his youtube page anyways
Perhaps i wasnt clear. This scam doesnt ask you for bank info to deposit the check, they ask you for info AFTER the check is deposited, to send some of the money to the 'middle man'. Once the funds are wired(usually most of the check), the scammers are gone, and the bank will overdraw your account. You will be responsible for all funds that were lost, meanwhile the scammers are out enjoying some dirty cash. Anyhow thank you for your response, and I apologize for being kinda uptight. Need to vent and im letting it out a bit here. I apologize. Take care Lorntroubles
I dunno much about scams but that sounds like the scammer is the guy who recieves the check, then the guy collecting the info sells that info for his 'cut'. The check receiver will have a business to hide the funds through (typically india [no offense to anyone here]) and the scammer gets the 'referral fee'. It is (often) a simple (but extremely effective) html change using remote access to your PC (this can be setup years prior to the scam).
 
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Not sure I understand, and might be I dont understand 'wire transfers' . Anyway, Joe Bloggs sends me £1000 in a cheque that I deposit and that clears, how can they get the money out without either 1, getting my bank details (ie logins or cheque book), or by cancelling the cheque and its withdrawn from the bank itself. Or, are you saying the person asks you to wire them some of the money that was deposited and in the cross-over before your initial incoming cheque is cancelled you are none-the-wiser?
Not sure I understand, and might be I dont understand 'wire transfers' . Anyway, Joe Bloggs sends me £1000 in a cheque that I deposit and that clears, how can they get the money out without either 1, getting my bank details (ie logins or cheque book), or by cancelling the cheque and its withdrawn from the bank itself. Or, are you saying the person asks you to wire them some of the money that was deposited and in the cross-over before your initial incoming cheque is cancelled you are none-the-wiser?
Sorry, I re-read your post. I think you are saying that they send you the cheque and you withdraw the cash but dont answer there request to send them monies.One the vagaries of the cheque-clearing process - really you shouldnt be able to access it until its actually cleared.
 
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Jumper Geo

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Only problem is there are so many sites out there I'm sure it would be impossible to list them ALL:notsure: but at least we have some help!! Ive looked atalot of sites and wondered are they legit or not!
They rely on newbies who have been caught out the more experienced know we have only 2 sources for N.

Cheers

Geo
 
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I had a career at a senior level in the international business world, and there the responsibility for problems in any organization lies with the person (or people) at the top of any organization. The buck stops on the CEO's desk. If there are scammers on here who are not removed quickly, the people who run this website need to get their act together. There are no excuses. Does anyone read everything posted on this site? The volume is not very great and it wouldn't take a lot of effort to go through each days posts once every 24 hours. (And the volume could be reduced further by filtering out posts from users who are known not to be scammers, which in practice would mean most users who have been here for a while.) Someone who does that regularly would very soon spot the warning signs of a user who was out to scam people, and that user could simply be banned. I realize that this wouldn't completely solve the problem, as the bad guys can just re-register under another name, but it would greatly reduce the problem.

Does anyone check the IP address of people registering against the IP that scammers used in the past when they registered? Again, that isn't a perfect fix, but it would help. (Since you ban use of VPN and Tor for people registering, I realize you may already be doing that.)

I get the impression that this site is very well run, and the maintainers are probably already doing a lot to prevent scams. But if a scamming is a persistent problem, the maintainers need to do more. Many users are very vulnerable people, and they need to be protected.

I'm new here, and don't know how to bring my comments to the attention of the people at the top. I would be grateful if someone who does know would do it for me.
 
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I had a career at a senior level in the international business world, and there the responsibility for problems in any organization lies with the person (or people) at the top of any organization. The buck stops on the CEO's desk. If there are scammers on here who are not removed quickly, the people who run this website need to get their act together. There are no excuses. Does anyone read everything posted on this site? The volume is not very great and it wouldn't take a lot of effort to go through each days posts once every 24 hours. (And the volume could be reduced further by filtering out posts from users who are known not to be scammers, which in practice would mean most users who have been here for a while.) Someone who does that regularly would very soon spot the warning signs of a user who was out to scam people, and that user could simply be banned. I realize that this wouldn't completely solve the problem, as the bad guys can just re-register under another name, but it would greatly reduce the problem.

Does anyone check the IP address of people registering against the IP that scammers used in the past when they registered? Again, that isn't a perfect fix, but it would help. (Since you ban use of VPN and Tor for people registering, I realize you may already be doing that.)

I get the impression that this site is very well run, and the maintainers are probably already doing a lot to prevent scams. But if a scamming is a persistent problem, the maintainers need to do more. Many users are very vulnerable people, and they need to be protected.

I'm new here, and don't know how to bring my comments to the attention of the people at the top. I would be grateful if someone who does know would do it for me.
just want to address a few things.

this thread isn't the only thing used to combat scammers.

we do have filters in place that can be used to identify possible scammers. the rules explicitly state that the forum isn't a marketplace either, so any transactional activities that are both with good or bad intentions will face severe warnings including a ban.

staff regulate the approval que and check the IP address for every single user that attempts to register on the forum, which is also combined with user detection systems that the site has. scammers are also hard banned and not permanently banned. you can read more about that here. https://sanctionedsuicide.com/threads/the-sanctioned-suicide-forum-guide.9931/

with the standards in place, its extremely unlikely for a scammer to evade a ban using an alt. we also have a community with dozens of vigilante members that help to combat scammers by using the report system to report any suspicious activities regarding posts or PMs sent by other members involving transactional activities. scammers exist and we've dealt with some that are intelligent enough to work around all of whats placed. it can happen and users should be critical and wary for their own sake as well.

take care.
 
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just want to address a few things.

this thread isn't the only thing used to combat scammers.

we do have filters in place that can be used to identify possible scammers. the rules explicitly state that the forum isn't a marketplace either, so any transactional activities that are both with good or bad intentions will face severe warnings including a ban.

staff regulate the approval que and check the IP address for every single user that attempts to register on the forum, which is also combined with user detection systems that the site has. scammers are also hard banned and not permanently banned. you can read more about that here. https://sanctionedsuicide.com/threads/the-sanctioned-suicide-forum-guide.9931/

with the standards in place, its extremely unlikely for a scammer to evade a ban using an alt. we also have a community with dozens of vigilante members that help to combat scammers by using the report system to report any suspicious activities regarding posts or PMs sent by other members involving transactional activities. scammers exist and we've dealt with some that are intelligent enough to work around all of whats placed. it can happen and users should be critical and wary for their own sake as well.

take care.
Thanks for the feedback. Glad to hear that you are taking this very seriously.
 
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May a post a link to see if others know if its legitimate?
 
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Well, I thank you for the link posted, showing the places I was considering buying from as scams and how they scam The problem is it ruins my plan. My only means now while effective is gruesome and painful. I do not want to be part of society on my birthday. Why can't it just be easy? Nobody is willing to help fix the situation. It probably isn't even fixable. I am faced with a life alone and never being allowed by society to reach my transition goals, which might have changed my life.

Being trans and not able to get the cosmetic surgeries that might make life easier is terrible. Being trans and finding out you are considered nothing more than a pornography fantasy, as most people only get information from porn, is unlivable loosing your career, your family and your dignity it too much and the world is not going to change in my lifetime, I should be allowed to cut it short.
 
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Rotating to landscape shows signatures for me, too - iPhone user fwiw & also old. Thanks, guys!
 
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I've talked to someone on reddit who said he ordered N from A using the updated email on the latest version of PPeH, the tutatona one. He still hasn't received it. So I would like to ask if anyone knows something about the tutatona email, is it a scam?
 
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I've talked to someone on reddit who said he ordered N from A using the updated email on the latest version of PPeH, the tutatona one. He still hasn't received it. So I would like to ask if anyone knows something about the tutatona email, is it a scam?
I heard some people did. Is the guy just ignoring him or say payment wasn’t received?
 
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I heard some people did. Is the guy just ignoring him or say payment wasn’t received?
Did they receive theirs? I've tried searching for people ordering using the tutatona email on here, but I couldn't find any.

He said that he got confirmation that the payment was received and the product would be shipped out by Wednesday (last Wednesday) so it's still pretty early to tell if it's a scam or not.
 
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Did they receive theirs? I've tried searching for people ordering using the tutatona email on here, but I couldn't find any.

He said that he got confirmation that the payment was received and the product would be shipped out by Wednesday (last Wednesday) so it's still pretty early to tell if it's a scam or not.
Yeah they received there’s. Give it a bit longer. He’s been pretty good from what I’ve heard
 
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Yeah they received there’s. Give it a bit longer. He’s been pretty good from what I’ve heard
Thanks. I'm just confused because from the 2020 ppeh I've seen it's still the protonmail, so I'm not sure which one is real if it's the tutatona email or protonmail one. I just can't really afford to be scammed so I want to make sure first.
 
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Thanks. I'm just confused because from the 2020 ppeh I've seen it's still the protonmail, so I'm not sure which one is real if it's the tutatona email or protonmail one. I just can't really afford to be scammed so I want to make sure first.

I suggest you look at all threads commented on in the past week that have N in the title. Skip the shorter ones, look at the ones that have had ongoing conversations. From what others on the forum have said, the very latest edition of the PPeH (June) has the tutanota address, and there is still uncertainty here about the transition to the new email address. A is not really known for reliable communication as it is, which sucks. It's rarely a smooth process for anyone.
 
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I suggest you look at all threads commented on in the past week that have N in the title. Skip the shorter ones, look at the ones that have had ongoing conversations. From what others on the forum have said, the very latest edition of the PPeH (June) has the tutanota address, and there is still uncertainty here about the transition to the new email address. A is not really known for reliable communication as it is, which sucks. It's rarely a smooth process for anyone.
I'll do just that. Thank you!
 
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Did they receive theirs? I've tried searching for people ordering using the tutatona email on here, but I couldn't find any.

He said that he got confirmation that the payment was received and the product would be shipped out by Wednesday (last Wednesday) so it's still pretty early to tell if it's a scam or not.

Did you get a tracking number?
I knew someone on this platform who received her N from A last week no issues whatsoever.
 
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Did you get a tracking number?
It was someone else who ordered it, not me. But I don't think he did, he just said that his payment was confirmed and when the product would be shipped out. He's just waiting for it now, it's only been a week. I asked him to let me know if he gets it. Does A usually give out tracking numbers?
 
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It was someone else who ordered it, not me. But I don't think he did, he just said that his payment was confirmed and when the product would be shipped out. He's just waiting for it now, it's only been a week. I asked him to let me know if he gets it. Does A usually give out tracking numbers?

The person I was talking to had one and she was tracking it that’s why I asked.
 
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