[News] SanctionedSuicide Survey Results (November 2019)

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MeltingHeart

MeltingHeart

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Some of the answers kind of surprised me. Especially with over half of us on anti-depressants. I'd be curious to see how long they have been on them.
I was on mine on and off for about twenties years- without once being recommend or suggested to have any kind of talking therapy or anything - then I got told it would be ok to just come off them- without any warning or suggestion to see how I feel etc. This was at a time I had made v.regular visits to my doc as was suffering months of severe insomnia -coming off them & my life falling apart as a consequence - was atleast in part what caused my huge breakdown. Now being out back on them- new ones - doesn’t help me. But I think if I hadn’t come off them in the first place or had therapy over years - whilst slowly tapering them off - I think I might have ok. I wouldn’t be feeling like my life is over & want to ctb.
 
Soul

Soul

gate gate paragate parasamgate bodhi svaha
Apr 12, 2019
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77% atheists wow didnt expect that.
Well, atheists and agnostics were counted together. Those choices ought to be rephrased, and the question definitely deserves an "other" option. Other questions about beliefs would be interesting too: whether people had religious upbringings or devoutly atheist (etc) parents; is suicide dissonant with our personal beliefs.
@Serge, have you done any statistical analyses on the data? Any interesting correlations?
 
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epic

epic

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Well, atheists and agnostics were counted together. Those choices ought to be rephrased, and the question definitely deserves an "other" option. Other questions about beliefs would be interesting too: whether people had religious upbringings or devoutly atheist (etc) parents; is suicide dissonant with our personal beliefs.
@Serge, have you done any statistical analyses on the data? Any interesting correlations?
Very true. I guess,most people would choose "deism" if given a choice. But who knows,I could be wrong. They should include it in the next poll.
 
Santiago

Santiago

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This is the best thing I have seen on here so far. Well done @Serge

I think this could be so valuable in real life with helping and more importantly understanding the suicidal (but I guess it's a shame that it will stay in our little circle)

There are clearly some trends in there
"Have you ever considered suicide in a serious manner?"

Three percent said no. Why are they here then?
Well define 'serious manner' first? To me that's the point past flipping that survival switch in your head

Many (I am confident the majority when I look at the amount of people who actually left us since this site started) here haven't reached that point yet

Even when you interpret that in a different way then there are still people here who are at the beginning stage where suicide first starts popping up in your head, but you kind of push it away because it doesn't seem like a realistic option
 
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Final Escape

Final Escape

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Interesting to see these results. It seems mental health is a big problem in Europe and North America. I bet it would be lower if more resources and help were put into mental health instead of turning a blind eye to it.
It’s on purpose to destabilize these countries. It’s not an accident that morality has been lowered and the state took over like everything. The bigger the government grows and more areas of life it controls the more vulnerable the individual. This is why so many of us are hurting. We no longer have the sense of community and strong family structures, kids are raised by the state not parents, when the gov controls healthcare it becomes very dangerous because crooked political elite doesn’t like healthy people who can stand up to them or compete with them.
 
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It’s on purpose to destabilize these countries. It’s not an accident that morality has been lowered and the state took over like everything. The bigger the government grows and more areas of life it controls the more vulnerable the individual. This is why so many of us are hurting. We no longer have the sense of community and strong family structures, kids are raised by the state not parents, when the gov controls healthcare it becomes very dangerous because crooked political elite doesn’t like healthy people who can stand up to them or compete with them.
Very true words.
 
DepressionsAHo

DepressionsAHo

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Feb 15, 2019
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I can’t believe so many have mental health problems, that’s so sad. I feel suicide would be down if more care was given to MH x
Mental health problems are especially prevalent amongst millennials and gen z. That's an established study. As a mix between the two (I was born in 97 and studies say I'm either gen z or millenial idk which one). We just deal with things differently then generations before. That's why memes are so popular. It's not "meme depression" as a user here once said. Its different coping mechanisms. Yes, they're incredibly dark but you wouldn't create a meme if you didnt actually feel that way even if it can sometimes be exaggerated. I cope with life through alcohol pills and memes.
 
PeacePlease

PeacePlease

A wandering body without a heart
Feb 26, 2019
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It’s on purpose to destabilize these countries. It’s not an accident that morality has been lowered and the state took over like everything. The bigger the government grows and more areas of life it controls the more vulnerable the individual. This is why so many of us are hurting. We no longer have the sense of community and strong family structures, kids are raised by the state not parents, when the gov controls healthcare it becomes very dangerous because crooked political elite doesn’t like healthy people who can stand up to them or compete with them.
Me being from Central America I think these countries didn't show up much because this site is in English and Latin people speak Spanish, most people who speak english do so because they were able to go to a private school or take lessons. The percentage of Latin American people who can acces this site is very low
 
Wayfaerer

Wayfaerer

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Aug 21, 2019
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77% atheists wow didnt expect that.
I'm a little bit surprised that it isn't higher. How could you be religious and depressed over suicide? You'd be getting a much better deal afterwards so the choice would be obvious. I found it very amusing in a twisted way when I read that there was a spike in suicide's before the catholic church deemed it a sin. You can't work if you're dead!
 
MeltingHeart

MeltingHeart

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I'm a little bit surprised that it isn't higher. How could you be religious and depressed over suicide? You'd be getting a much better deal afterwards so the choice would be obvious. I found it very amusing in a twisted way when I read that there was a spike in suicide's before the catholic church deemed it a sin. You can't work if you're dead!
where did you read that, when did they deem it a sin? Surely that is why the religious would be depressed about suicide because it is now a mortal sin? eternal damnation and all that...
 
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Wayfaerer

Wayfaerer

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where did you read that, when did they deem it a sin? Surely that is why the religious would be depressed about suicide because it is now a mortal sin? eternal damnation and all that...
Within the very early days of the church. I can't remember where I read that (maybe 8ch?) but I'll see if I can find it again. The bible itself never mentions that suicide is a sin but the church loves to put it's own spin on things for self-serving reasons (like all cults.)
 
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I thought the number of people who have had someone close to them ctb would be higher.
 
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DoNotLet2

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Ooo, nice! I like surveys! Interesting, we have Christians over there and we're mostly Caucasian O.O Interesting, interesting O.O
We have less than 1% of pro lifers... Still much.
 
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FTL.Wanderer

FTL.Wanderer

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How does someone distinguish between "mental illness" and the effects of the other issues? For example, despite the majority of respondents not currently seeing a professional, the largest cause credited is "mental illness."
 
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deadalready1969

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Some of the answers kind of surprised me. Especially with over half of us on anti-depressants. I'd be curious to see how long they have been on them.
I’d be curious how many people on antidepressants have worsening SI because of the drugs they take. I can’t take them for this reason. I have a seizure disorder and must take anticonvulsants. They make my SI worse too. So I rely on ketamine infusions now to turn down the volume until I’m ready to leave. My last attempt earlier this year failed.
 
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MeltingHeart

MeltingHeart

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I’d be curious how many people on antidepressants have worsening SI because of the drugs they take. I can’t take them for this reason. I have a seizure disorder and must take anticonvulsants. They make my SI worse too. So I rely on ketamine infusions now to turn down the volume until I’m ready to leave. My last attempt earlier this year failed.
Do you mean SI as in standing for Suicidal Ideation in this instance?
 
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deadalready1969

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Do you mean SI as in standing for Suicidal Ideation in this instance?
Yes. Some drugs have caused SI, others have caused me to become impulsively, actively suicidal. I struggle with this daily though on or off meds. Meds just make it worse. Ketamine will stop those thoughts for about a day and keep them in check for a few weeks, but they are still there. And an infusion costs $250. (I get a discount from my anesthesiologist. They are usually $500 or more, and Spravato, the esketamine nasal spray that was just approved by the FDA not long ago, costs even more for a single dose. The absorption rate is low too, less than 50 percent.)
How does someone distinguish between "mental illness" and the effects of the other issues? For example, despite the majority of respondents not currently seeing a professional, the largest cause credited is "mental illness."
Possibly they were diagnosed at an earlier time and have stopped seeking treatment? Maybe because it was ineffective, cost prohibitive, both or for some other reason, like therapy is hard work? Or they are self diagnosed, believing that one’s desire to leave in itself qualifies as a mental illness? (I don’t necessarily agree with that point of view.) I’m still seeking treatment from a therapist and psychiatrist, but after my attempt earlier this year and following a short inpatient stay, I entered a six-day per week partial hospitalization program for 2-1/2 months. I wasn’t ready to be discharged but my insurance company made the determination that I was well enough to go, and I had to stop abruptly. I pretty much haven’t left my house since and I was discharged in May. Anyway, in the next survey, there should probably be more questions that dig deeper into that point.
 
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FTL.Wanderer

FTL.Wanderer

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Possibly they were diagnosed at an earlier time and have stopped seeking treatment? Maybe because...
I agree there are many possibilities. But little consistently precise characterization of "mental illness."

Hope you feel much better soon.
 
Kvotheloner

Kvotheloner

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So glad you all did this. I will probably remove the affiliation with SS and have this with me when I ctb.
 
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