[Resource] PPH Dec 2019

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* CAVEAT * Scammers may edit documents, changing a seller's info to their own contact details. This upload is “READ ONLY” protected, but we can't give guarantees, or fully check contents. *Don't* automatically assume email / web addresses, phone numbers, dosages, or any info in the document, are correct. Email addresses, etc, could be the details of a scammer, or other malicious changes may have been made. You use this document entirely at your own risk. You should cross-check information with someone having an up-to-date and trusted version, or by some other means. IF YOU DON'T *FULLY* UNDERSTAND THESE STATEMENTS THEN *DON’T* USE THIS DOCUMENT !

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Note on Document Security / Validity
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This upload is "read only" and is not editable.
This is because "anonfile" (the hosting site) doesn't allow editing / re-uploading to the same URL.
A modified file would have to be uploaded to a new URL.
Provided you stick to the link posted here, the document should be safe against "future editing", unless someone edited the link (eg a "rogue moderator" or if someone found a way to edit this post) or someone hacks into anonfile.com, or works for them, etc.
There could be malicious editing that has already occurred, however.
I don't believe this to be the case, but can't give a guarantee since I haven't checked the whole document.
Plus of course I might be dishonest, so you still shouldn't "trust" the document.
So I'm encouraging you to always think critically.

You should also check the "last edited" timestamp on this post.
If the edit timestamp is a day or more later than the original post, then I (or someone else) might have changed the link, which again could be used to introduce malicious edits to the document.
Example : If this post were dated 28 July 2019, but the last edit were dated 30 July 2019 or 16 Aug 2019, etc, then that is suspicious.
So moderators should be wary of anyone asking if they can "edit an old post" that contains a resource link.

You should cross-check any/all info from the document with someone having an up-to-date and trusted version, or by some other means of verifying.

I can say that the "A" and "D" email addresses have been checked in the document.
But again, don't trust me, and do your own checking as explained.
(Note : there are many questions regarding whether "D" is a valid source, and it appears he has been removed from the latest online PPH)

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Do you know other "read only" file hosting sites ?
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Not all file hosting sites work in the "read only" way that "anonfile" does.
I'd like to build a list of sites that *do* work that way, so we can have an "approved list" of file hosting sites.
Please PM me or reply below with other sites that work in the same way.

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Searching
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The document is searchable, but the search might be "hit and miss" since it's "reverse engineered" via optical character recognition from the page images. Below is a list of chapter names. You can use search to jump to those.

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Credit
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The credit for creating the document goes to 2 other members, but I'm not sure they wish to be named, so I haven't named them, but huge thanks to them both.

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Sharing
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Try to avoid sending people copies of the file, or sending them the link, since this encourages poor habits ("leading by bad example")
Instead encourage them to come to *this* post, to get the link, and explain why this is important.
This should improve awareness of the security issues discussed above.

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Chapters
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As explained above, you can "jump" to these by doing a text search.
Introduction
Suicide & the Law
The Peaceful Pill
The Exit 'RPA' Test
Online Security & Privacy
Hypoxic Death & the Exit Bag
Carbon Monoxide
Lethal Inorganic Salts
Detergent Death
Introduction to Drugs
Drugs and Vomiting
Morphine and the Opioids
Propoxyphene
Amytriptyline
Chloroquine
Insulin
Chloral Hydrate
The Lethal Mixtures
Drug Options - Nembutal
Availability of Nembutal
Nembutal Scams
Testing & Storage of Nembutal
Administration of Nembutal
The Peaceful Pill Project
The Korean Method
Swiss Options
Final Considerations
Exit RP Table
 
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TimeToBiteTheDust

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Thanks a lot
 
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Debreather chapter, Jan 2020 :
* CAVEAT * Scammers may edit documents, changing a seller's info to their own contact details. This upload is “READ ONLY” protected, but we can't give guarantees, or fully check contents. *Don't* automatically assume email / web addresses, phone numbers, dosages, or any info in the document, are correct. Email addresses, etc, could be the details of a scammer, or other malicious changes may have been made. You use this document entirely at your own risk. You should cross-check information with someone having an up-to-date and trusted version, or by some other means. IF YOU DON'T *FULLY* UNDERSTAND THESE STATEMENTS THEN *DON’T* USE THIS DOCUMENT !
 
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Hello, maybe it would be easier to upload on a resource like zlibrary?
 
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jgm63

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Some people may have problems with zip files on mobile, so here is a doc version.

Debreather chapter, Jan 2020, doc format :
* CAVEAT * Scammers may edit documents, changing a seller's info to their own contact details. This upload is “READ ONLY” protected, but we can't give guarantees, or fully check contents. *Don't* automatically assume email / web addresses, phone numbers, dosages, or any info in the document, are correct. Email addresses, etc, could be the details of a scammer, or other malicious changes may have been made. You use this document entirely at your own risk. You should cross-check information with someone having an up-to-date and trusted version, or by some other means. IF YOU DON'T *FULLY* UNDERSTAND THESE STATEMENTS THEN *DON’T* USE THIS DOCUMENT !
Link does not work
they never do for me
@meowcat @mattwitt
Which link are you having trouble with ?
The debreather one was a zip, which people on mobile may have problems with.
I've uploaded a doc version instead (see above)
Or, try on laptop/desktop instead of mobile, and/or use a regular browser instead of tor.
 
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Same. Has anybody an explanation, please?
Which link are you having trouble with ?
Are you on mobile ?

The debreather one was a zip, which people on mobile may have problems with.
I've uploaded a doc version instead (see above)
Or, try on laptop/desktop instead of mobile, and/or use a regular browser instead of tor.
 
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Further general comment on above documents....

I've done what I can to make them safe, and I believe the documents to be correct, BUT...... it's important for people to understand the security issues, hence the explanations in the first post.
I'm encouraging "critical thinking" and being careful of who you trust....

What we can say is :

*If* ALL the security points discussed are followed and checked, then you should have some confidence that the documents can't be edited at some future date without anyone noticing.

If you've also done some of your own checking of the documents (eg by verifying with someone having an up-to-date and trusted version), then the above allows confidence for those parts of the documents that you've checked....

But stay on your guard, and don't necessarily believe what others tell you...
 
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Which link are you having trouble with ?
Are you on mobile ?

The debreather one was a zip, which people on mobile may have problems with.
I've uploaded a doc version instead (see above)
Or, try on laptop/desktop instead of mobile, and/or use a regular browser instead of tor.
Yea, the anon file link worked on laptop, thanks my friend!
 
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Bless your soul for uploading this. I've noticed that the December 2019 PPH has also been added to the Sanctioned Suicide Wiki under Resources section:

(https://suicide.wiki/w/Resources)
Yes, but I don't think those ones are searchable, and they don't have a contents page, which limits their usefulness.
Also, I don't know whether the document security concerns (discussed in first post of this thread) are adequately addressed for those copies.....
 
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"Example : If this post were dated 28 July 2019, but the last edit were dated 30 July 2019 or 16 Aug 2019, etc, then that is suspicious."
Posted january 20th, edited january 21st huh, seems you've outed yourself! Aha! You've been rumbled ole chap!
 
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"Example : If this post were dated 28 July 2019, but the last edit were dated 30 July 2019 or 16 Aug 2019, etc, then that is suspicious."
Posted january 20th, edited january 21st huh, seems you've outed yourself! Aha! You've been rumbled ole chap!
LOL :))
Nice try.
No cigar... :sunglasses:

My "bad" example explanation mentions a 2 day gap or greater.
Whereas my edit was a 1 day gap, which is potentially valid due to the initial "edit window", that may cross over midnight...

:sunglasses:

BUT I'm glad you read what I wrote, and checked.... Good work !!
AND... you made me think of another security procedure point, which is :

We should wait until that edit window is closed before doing any "initial checks" on the document, to build "initial confidence" in the document's validity....

I believe that edit window is currently 6 hours, although it's probably a site configurable parameter (and subject to change), so the procedure should be :

> Verify with a mod what the current "edit window" parameter is set to
> Wait for that amount of time to pass since the link was posted before doing any initial checks on the document, to build "initial confidence" in the document's validity

So thanks....
 
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Some people may have problems with zip files on mobile, so here is a doc version.

Debreather chapter, Jan 2020, doc format :
* CAVEAT * Scammers may edit documents, changing a seller's info to their own contact details. This upload is “READ ONLY” protected, but we can't give guarantees, or fully check contents. *Don't* automatically assume email / web addresses, phone numbers, dosages, or any info in the document, are correct. Email addresses, etc, could be the details of a scammer, or other malicious changes may have been made. You use this document entirely at your own risk. You should cross-check information with someone having an up-to-date and trusted version, or by some other means. IF YOU DON'T *FULLY* UNDERSTAND THESE STATEMENTS THEN *DON’T* USE THIS DOCUMENT !


@meowcat @mattwitt
Which link are you having trouble with ?
The debreather one was a zip, which people on mobile may have problems with.
I've uploaded a doc version instead (see above)
Or, try on laptop/desktop instead of mobile, and/or use a regular browser instead of tor.
I am on laptop.None of the above links work. When I click on any of the links,The new window opens up with the message `This site can't be reached."
 
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jgm63

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I am on laptop.None of the above links work. When I click on any of the links,The new window opens up with the message `This site can't be reached."
That seems strange.
Can you reach the anonfile.com website ?
Could you try from a different browser perhaps ?
 
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That seems strange.
Can you reach the anonfile.com website ?
Could you try from a different browser perhaps ?
I can reach the anonfile.com site from one of the browsers but not able to reach the link.
That seems strange.
Can you reach the anonfile.com website ?
Could you try from a different browser perhaps ?
Clearly anonfile is a problematic site on many layers.I wish you could use a simpler place like Google or any other of your choice.
I know you are trying to help and this is frustrating since i'm about 2 years short of 50,so can't go and cannot join Exit international.
 
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I can reach the anonfile.com site from one of the browsers but not able to reach the link.

Clearly anonfile is a problematic site on many layers.I wish you could use a simpler place like Google or any other of your choice.
I know you are trying to help and this is frustrating since i'm about 2 years short of 50,so can't go and cannot join Exit international.
Not all file hosting solutions are acceptable.
If you read my first post in this thread, you'll understand the security issues.
You shouldn't trust someone sharing a link to something that could later be edited....

Don't know what's causing your issue, but I've made another link. If you're still having issues then let me know.
* CAVEAT * Scammers may edit documents, changing a seller's info to their own contact details. This upload is “READ ONLY” protected, but we can't give guarantees, or fully check contents. *Don't* automatically assume email / web addresses, phone numbers, dosages, or any info in the document, are correct. Email addresses, etc, could be the details of a scammer, or other malicious changes may have been made. You use this document entirely at your own risk. You should cross-check information with someone having an up-to-date and trusted version, or by some other means. IF YOU DON'T *FULLY* UNDERSTAND THESE STATEMENTS THEN *DON’T* USE THIS DOCUMENT !
 
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I am on a MacBook and it will not open the file. It says MacOS wont open. I have tried a bunch of times and different browsers. Any ideas? Thank you
 
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I am on a MacBook and it will not open the file. It says MacOS wont open. I have tried a bunch of times and different browsers. Any ideas? Thank you
There's an alternative upload a few posts up ( here )
 
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@jgm63 Cannot open it in browser at all, only downloading helps.
It is not searchable, but the issue can be easily fixed by using e.g. Fine Reader and then converting to like .fb2/.epub/.mobi/.docx/compressed .pdf
 
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