[Resource] Megathread N from C + Alternative N Sources

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Berlin76

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In my experience, 25 g of powder is easier to conceal and less likely to get flagged vs two significantly heavier bottles of mystery liquid (over 8X the weight, likely 4X the volume). The powder is usually hidden under several layers of decoys, and the package is highly unlikely to even be checked by customs in the first place.

Because the community's experience with N from C is still limited, I would recommend getting your own sample tested by Energy Control. The service costs about $80 USD, but the peace of mind knowing you will 100% CTB is worth a lot more. It's also a small price in comparison to the $700 required to purchase the N in the first place.
It does not matter with powder.
They find coke all the time in post by the use of scanners. Dont you ever watch borderpatrol? They can see organic material trough metal and everything.

So when they see powder they think its coke.
 
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SnowStroller

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It does not matter with powder.
They find coke all the time in post by the use of scanners. Dont you ever watch borderpatrol? They can see organic material trough metal and everything.

So when they see powder they think its coke.
This is not true with powder N.

The powder is hermetically sealed and sanitary procedure is followed so that no residue inside or outside the package is detectable. Any competent vendor follows these procedures. Your understanding of customs is flawed
 
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a.n.kirillov

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Could someone please PM me the name of the EM seller?


Edit: yeah got it figured out. Looks good
 
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Berlin76

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This is not true with powder N.

The powder is hermetically sealed and sanitary procedure is followed so that no residue inside or outside the package is detectable. Any competent vendor follows these procedures. Your understanding of customs is flawed
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. Yeah funny and hopeful thinking.
But liquid or powder when they find it by scanning every a container with post they can seee everything also what is not showing up because of metal or a other sort of concealment.

They always do this, a friend of mine worked at the post and they always Found drugs and money hidden in books or whatever.
What is your reasoning to support that? You haven't addressed @SnowStroller's point at all. Making statements like that without providing some sort of reasoning/evidence only adds to the heap of misinformation which already exists around this subject.
Jusy think realistic.
ofcourse smugglers try to hide it.
But alot is found ofcourse by customs just simple scanning.

And powder sets them of they can see it on the scanner, they think its coke when they see its hidden. Dont you ever watch the show Borderpatrol?
 
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chris8000

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@SnowStroller, a sealed package is one thing. But drugs as a powder are organic and can be detected by an X ray machine, I think that is the ‘scanner’ Berlin is talking about.

I doubt they scan everything, probably a fraction because of limited resources. A liquid may get less attention as not many drugs are in liquid form. Both A and C appear to have had interceptions, and it is not highly unlikely this will happen.
 
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Berlin76

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@SnowStroller, a sealed package is one thing. But drugs as a powder are organic and can be detected by an X ray machine, I think that is the ‘scanner’ Berlin is talking about.

I doubt they scan everything, probably a fraction because of limited resources. A liquid may get less attention as not many drugs are in liquid form. Both A and C appear to have had interceptions, and it is not highly unlikely this will happen.

Chance is high ofcourse that it get intercepted. And yes i ment X-RAY sorry
 
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SXCX965

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Pardon my ignorance but what happens if it's intercepted by customs? Do they throw it away and put your name into a system or does law enforcement show up at your door? I'd assume either but idk if there's a procedure put in place (asking about the U.S.)
 
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Ssrejisser

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About the capsuling - we had a member put SN in vegetable capsules and I think it worked for him. Why can't the same be true for N?
 
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a.n.kirillov

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About the capsuling - we had a member put SN in vegetable capsules and I think it worked for him. Why can't the same be true for N?
I guess it would work if you swallowed them fast enough. Why risk it though? What if it slows the process down too much and it becomes painful? Also, longer time being conscious might increase risk of vomiting(?)... a lot of unpredictability I wouldn't bother with. I don't really see why this is even a concern with the powdered form.
 
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Pardon my ignorance but what happens if it's intercepted by customs? Do they throw it away and put your name into a system or does law enforcement show up at your door? I'd assume either but idk if there's a procedure put in place (asking about the U.S.)
I would also like to know this.
 
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Daffodil

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I don't think people are actually getting arrested, I think they are being put in mental institutions. However, one of the reasons I'm trying to get the liquid first is because I think it looks less sketchy than ordering powder on the dark web.
 
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Berlin76

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I would also like to know this.
Its illegal like heroine and coke.
In many countries its in the highest category. So with N you can get a couple of year's jail or around 80000 ticket.

Some people were send to mental hospital.
 
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Berlin76

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SnowStroller

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Chance is high ofcourse that it get intercepted. And yes i ment X-RAY sorry
A package can get flagged by customs for any number of reasons. They are primarily:
1) An officer believes a package looks suspicious (unlikely, easily circumvented using decent stealth & decoys)
2) A drug-sniffing dog detects the scent of common narcotics (unlikely with N as it isn't common or trained for, and easily circumvented with vacuum sealing)
3) The package is flagged or randomly selected for an x-ray scan (in which case there is a moderate chance of interception, but the fraction of packages subject to x-ray is something on the magnitude of 1/1000).

Obviously if you're going to base your heuristics on a TV show about customs, they are going to sensationalize and amp up your fears for the sake of ratings & deterrence, but only a fraction of a fraction of shipments don't make it through. Oftentimes the cases are not pursued and the drug is simply disposed of, as the vendor uses an illegitimate return address and the buyer cannot be directly prosecuted for importing the drug without significantly higher amounts of evidence/admission.

Think about it: if they really could arrest you just for having your name on the package, then you could order drugs under the name of your arch nemesis and get them arrested without any additional evidence and so on. These leads are rarely pursued and there is a legally substantial amount of plausible deniability involved, as long as you don't voluntarily incriminate yourself. If a package doesn't make it through, 99% of the time there is no ramification whatsoever, and it is such a mundane issue that most vendors offer a free reshipment if you reach out to them.

If you want to claim that this isn't 100.00% foolproof, then fine. But neither is walking down the street or driving to work. Clearly there is a degree of psychological projection and fear-mongering at play here, and frankly I have no stomach for it. Like I said several times now, if you do your own research you can come to your own conclusions. But I will not be able to answer every slightest concern and anxiety, as I have already done the best I could at this point
 
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@SnowStroller, a sealed package is one thing. But drugs as a powder are organic and can be detected by an X ray machine, I think that is the ‘scanner’ Berlin is talking about.

I doubt they scan everything, probably a fraction because of limited resources. A liquid may get less attention as not many drugs are in liquid form. Both A and C appear to have had interceptions, and it is not highly unlikely this will happen.
Curious where you got information about packages from C being intercepted? I haven't really seen anyone here talk about their experience with ordering from C.
 
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a.n.kirillov

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C states they resend a second package for free if it doesn't go through and provide fake invoices. I don't know how trustworthy EM ratings/ comments are but they are almost all positive. I'm also more inclined to trust DN sellers over A as long as they are reputable enough. I mean people have been ordering drugs of the DN for years and if they can problvide high quality substances of every other kind, why shouldn't they be able to provide N? I'm more scared of the market going down or being otherwise scammed out of my BTC than being scammed by the vendor.

All the reports about A 'accidentally' forgetting about a second bottle and now only sending 60ml instead of 100ml ones, etc... this is a absolute no go and anyone who keeps buying from him is enabling this behaviour.
 
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poof

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It is absolutely not wise at all to use a VPN with Tor as it compromises the built-in security feature already preloaded with Tor. When one uses a VPN, your original IP address is recorded via the VPN provider and the VPN provider knows your location and can store your IP address. A VPN is a private company you route your data through so it's not really safe they could do anything with it... Tor is anonymous.. Your isp can see your using it but that's as far as it goes. Tor is the safest browser that there is besides Tails and it uses exit nodes to disguise your IP adress which makes it nearly impossible for your information to be intercepted. Also, it is HIGHLY recommended that you DISABLE Javascript on Tor so that your information is private. The information I am stating is confirmed via the Darknet subreddit in which they claim that by using VPN, you are putting yourself at a much higher risk.
Thank you for the insight.
 
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Duk3_0f_3ll1ngt0n

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I realizee this thread is primarily talking about N and available sources, but are there any legitimate sources available for Rx for depression? Empire doesn't even seem to be working anymore.
 
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I realizee this thread is primarily talking about N and available sources, but are there any legitimate sources available for Rx for depression? Empire doesn't even seem to be working anymore.
Pharmaceutical companies no longer manufacture N in pill form. They used to manufacture pills up until 1999, but due to its history of lethal drug overdose, N is now only practically available via commercial veterinary fluid or black market synthesized powder. There's very little chance you can get it prescribed - it's extremely rare.

Empire is under regular DDOS attacks, so market links will experience occasional outages. Try again a little later (and verify working links on dark.fail) and you should be good
 
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a.n.kirillov

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Especially lab reports because he won't provide any info about that.

Would be a drag to send it to get tested but I see no way around it.
 
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RainAndSadness

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@SnowStroller, a sealed package is one thing. But drugs as a powder are organic and can be detected by an X ray machine, I think that is the ‘scanner’ Berlin is talking about.

I doubt they scan everything, probably a fraction because of limited resources. A liquid may get less attention as not many drugs are in liquid form. Both A and C appear to have had interceptions, and it is not highly unlikely this will happen.
C has 0 negative reviews on Empire and I've talked to people who received the product in this forum. There is one neutral rating, saying that it wasn't quite 25g, but all reviews so far, have confirmed delivery. I'll order this month or February and if I receive it, I'll update of course.
 
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fekr304595302

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I just contacted C to ask him about N
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I will keep you updated. I have been ordering drugs and I have a very good instinct about this sort of things. He looks legit. It would be very hard for someone to fake that amount of good reviews. He looks like a serious druglord from China
 
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a.n.kirillov

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I just contacted C to ask him about N
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I will keep you updated. I have been ordering drugs and I have a very good instinct about this sort of things. He looks legit. It would be very hard for someone to fake that amount of good reviews. He looks like a serious druglord from China
Being that this is your first post on these boards, people will likely take you for a shill; not saying you are one ofc :-)
 
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fekr304595302

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Being that this is your first post on these boards, people will likely take you for a shill; not saying you are one ofc :-)
I can introduce myself quickly.
I have been hanging around blackhat as well as darknet forums for about 3 years. Lurking around and trolling online for about 15 years.

I used to sell blackhat methods on French darknet marketplaces.
I used to hang around with some of the best french hackers. I got caught by the cyberpolice a few times.

I know that Reputation is everything in business


So now I got my eyes on the C guy. I want to see if he's legit, so I just got in touch with him.

EDIT : I just managed to send an email to A aswell. Let's see
 
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fekr304595302

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Is empire down ? I can't contact C anymore. Does anyone have C's email adress ? A doesn't answer to my mails.