[Resource] Megathread N from C + Alternative N Sources

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Yomyom

Yomyom

Darker dearie, much darker
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Is there a way to get a refund with Energy Control? They're complete jerks at this point, ignoring all my mails on purpose. I also would like to know an alternative to Energy Control because I wanna know how pure my product is.
Contact them on Twitter, they usually answer in couple of hours
 
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no.place

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Is there a way to get a refund with Energy Control? They're complete jerks at this point, ignoring all my mails on purpose. I also would like to know an alternative to Energy Control because I wanna know how pure my product is.
Didn't some users test the product already? I think it is useless to do it again and again, if he was a scammer he'd send us fake powder from the beginning or to whom he wants.. From what I observed he's doing regular business for now, so I wouldn't sweat it too much.
Also because it is indeed quite expensive testing the product and to find a good lab with good waiting times to get the results.. The fact that we had users bringing results is already good enough imo and I don't think C is stupid and thinks that people won't test what he sells.
If we had a test kit like for drugs (Where the only thing you need to do is taking a little dose and puring some drops) then everything would have been way easier..
Time ago I thought that this home test kit existed for N, but it seems that it doesnt. That the only kit existing lets you make a sample for labs or if you want to test it at home, it only tells you if it's a barbiturate (Which we have a confimration about also from a user who tested it on himself and then got results directly from urine).

But of course if you have money to spend on it and want to do further tests for others then go ahead.. Personally I don't see the point, since in previous posts we had confirm that there is a high percentual of N purity, which is amazing considering how nearly impossible it was to get this form.

Also exit international was talking about working to make a QUANTITATIVE test kit to find nembutal presence in barbiturates... It was in 2011 and to this day still no news about it.
According to psychonautwiki a common dosage of Nembutal is 100-200mg and a heavy dose is over 300.. So if people here are willing to test on themselves we can already have results on how potent it is (of course it could be phenobarbital, since the dosage is quite the same).
 
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vi777

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Jun 23, 2020
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I confirm C ships the product. Id like to test it before using though.
 
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no.place

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May 28, 2020
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I confirm C ships the product. Id like to test it before using though.
Users have previously stated that the product is 67/74% pure.. Let us know if you decide to test it and get similar results..

As far as I'm concerned, I think I will be taking it very soon, so.. After my last message on this forum if I don't return you'll have your results about its effectivness.
Update:

I asked to C about the substance purity and he said that is 98% pure... I wonder what does he mean.
Perhaps I'll ask him about the results some people had.
 
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rhiino

rhiino

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May 13, 2020
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Somebody here already asked him about purity, he said 99 % there, if I remember correctly. So clearly he is lying.
 
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Commitmentphile101

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Apr 16, 2020
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Somebody here already asked him about purity, he said 99 % there, if I remember correctly. So clearly he is lying.
I find this quite sad if that is the case. He has a complete monopoly on supply right now and there’s no alternative for any buyers so lying just hurts everyone. He loses no business by being truthful. The one thing he loses by lying is trust in him.
 
SXCX965

SXCX965

Wise
Dec 31, 2019
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Honestly I'm not sure if he is lying but with his powdered N monopoly he can without much consequence if he wanted to. Pento is supposedly hard to synthesize. The lab he uses probably says 99%/98% so he probably just passes that on to buyers.
 
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Commitmentphile101

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Honestly I'm not sure if he is lying but with his powdered N monopoly he can without much consequence if he wanted to. Pento is supposedly hard to synthesize. The lab he uses probably says 99%/98% so he probably just passes that on to buyers.
Forgive me if I’m wrong but he can dilute it further on his end surely by mixing with other substances after he’s bought stuff of approx 99% purity?
 
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AlreadyGone

AlreadyGone

Taking it day by day
Jan 11, 2020
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I find this quite sad if that is the case. He has a complete monopoly on supply right now and there’s no alternative for any buyers so lying just hurts everyone. He loses no business by being truthful. The one thing he loses by lying is trust in him.
But he has a monopoly. So he has nothing to lose at all. You either buy from him, or you don't.
 
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no.place

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I find this quite sad if that is the case. He has a complete monopoly on supply right now and there’s no alternative for any buyers so lying just hurts everyone. He loses no business by being truthful. The one thing he loses by lying is trust in him.
I don't think he's that stupid. 67/74% of purity as stated before by other users is normal for the product and he knows that people can test the stuff he sells.
Perhaps it could be a mixture of N and pheno or something like that, but I doubt that this isn't N after the results we had here and I doubt that the powder doesn't contain at least 16g of it.

Perhaps we'll see now with further tests and people who'll use it. I think that the effects that people reported having on just 40mg are really assuring, since that is a microdose compared to the total and taking it all after the antiemetic regime should seriously shut off your central nervuous system in the whole.

Anybody has reports about surviving barbiturates or phenobarbital? If I recall there shouldn't bee too much risk aside from having to return to normal functions in some week.. I never read somebody becoming a vegetable or going into life coma, except a temporary coma that usually resulted in death.
Barbiturates were replaced with benzos a long time ago exactly because they were all easily so deadly if you took too much.
 
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vi777

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Afaik if one takes a non lethal overdose of barbiturates worst case u have a long sleep and are in a zombie like state for a couple days after then return to normal. Just like when u severely OD on benzos.
All depending on tolerance ofc.

If I do test mine Ill share the results.

About the monopoly: there is an alternative: synthesising it urself. (but then still ud need to test it)
I am quite close to doing this equipment/precursor/knowledge wise but some pieces of the puzzle are still missing. The PPH doesnt give enough details. If someone is serious about synthesising it, Id love to talk, together we might be able to work it out.
 
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no.place

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Afaik if one takes a non lethal overdose of barbiturates worst case u have a long sleep and are in a zombie like state for a couple days after then return to normal. Just like when u severely OD on benzos.
All depending on tolerance ofc.

If I do test mine Ill share the results.

About the monopoly: there is an alternative: synthesising it urself. (but then still ud need to test it)
I am quite close to doing this equipment/precursor/knowledge wise but some pieces of the puzzle are still missing. The PPH doesnt give enough details. If someone is serious about synthesising it, Id love to talk, together we might be able to work it out.
Exactly what I was thinking. One of the keys and most important things we try to keep relevant about the methods over the quickness (to lessen the chance of being found and stopped), the peacefulness (To not suffer or feel discomfort), Dignity (Body integrity) should be of course, Reversibilty.. So that you can turn back to a normal life without the risk of becoming a vegetable or staying in coma forever. Which from what I read is not something that happens with barbiturates overdose and if you get into coma you end up dead shortly after.

By the way the problem with the test is that we need a quantitative test in order to find N in barbiturate samples... And this quantitative test we need to have is something that the PPH and exit international have stated to be working on since 2011 without any news. If we had such a test available we would already be at peace and everyone could see themselves how strong their product is.

Also if I recall we already had a case of Chinese N time ago that has been reported by PPH, so it wouldn't surprise me if that kind of N is finally returning on the market and again available to get.
 
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vi777

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The boiling point test would be a good way to acquire some more info about C's product, but the right equipment including a very precise thermometer (and using it well!) are needed.

This is a test that I might perform myself soon.
 
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cursum.perficio

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Nov 26, 2019
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Which market is C selling from now? Could someone PM me it?
 
brainpain2

brainpain2

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Did anyone else here receive powder N from J (China) circa 2016?? I know she is no longer in business.
 
SnowStroller

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Is there a way to get a refund with Energy Control? They're complete jerks at this point, ignoring all my mails on purpose. I also would like to know an alternative to Energy Control because I wanna know how pure my product is.
If you paid with a traditional method such as paypal, it's possible to do a claim/chargeback without issue. If you paid with BTC, unfortunately there's no recourse
 
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cursum.perficio

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anybody pm me the market c is selling from? is it still empire?
 
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no.place

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anybody pm me the market c is selling from? is it still empire?
No need to spam the same message over and over until somebody PMs you.
If you have been here for a while (and I read that you did since november) you'll be able ot PM many users who allow others to do that, perhaps ask somebody who has been active in this thread and bought the N or PM directly me and I'll try to help.
 
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