[Resource] Megathread N from C + Alternative N Sources

  • Welcome to Sanctioned Suicide, a pro-choice forum for the discussion of mental illness, suicide, and the moral implications of the act itself. This is not a pro-suicide site. We do not encourage or aid suicide, and the information offered is for educational purposes only. Read our rules and FAQ for more information. We also offer a recovery subforum if you wish to get support.

    You can close this box by clicking the top right "X".

enjolras

enjolras

Saw the angel shine through the jellyfish
Feb 13, 2020
220
217
So, everything is possible ! It’s only about understanding risks and accepting responsibilities (equally the ones put onto others)

BitPanda is the best entry point for credit cards (cheaper, w/ solid reputation) ...for legal use : you have identified with a recorded video call, SMS and documents. That’s a bad start to keep it simple. Unless you don’t care, now break the link with something else than Bitcoin (Monero if lazy, not paranoid, is viable)

I dislike the idea (the spirit of Bitcoin, like intended at birth, was meant to bypass intermediaries), but the famous Kraken exchange can be used to directly buy Monero against USD or EUR via bank transfer.
Acquiring directly the ghosting coin you aim is preferable to put some weight out of your shoulders, if not going to take some extra steps properly. Entering cryptos via Bitcoin is to be discouraged, unless you seriously know what you’re doing with other segments next ...and enjoy the hassle

What people don’t get is that there are several companies focused at engineering powerful softwares destined at tracing every transaction links, unfolding the blockchains, using sophisticated techniques to undercover the anonymity, revealing traceability

5F641EE9-775E-44A5-BC8F-F5B3B1D17154.jpeg


931FDD67-4BA6-47FF-946B-430ECE6C6863.jpeg


It’s called blockchain analysis, is not new and used to be even accessible freely in the past (video demo below). Now it is sold at big prices to states (tax systems), law enforcement agencies and businesses. It maps your activity from public addresses



Must read, more in-depth explanations of the behind the scenes investigations led by such a company (not the leader)

———-If you start poorly, it might end up poorly ——

Even anonymous instant exchanges (not exchanges) used for conversions from Bitcoin into altcoins, even if you multiply the loops for opacity between several places, choose to cooperate on a principle basis with the police. They do as soon as a criminal activity is suspected, without opposition. Don’t count on them to fight to protect your butt, even if they got very minimal info from you (no email / name / address), they’ll handle everything else (IP addresses / transactions).

Changelly, back when it was anonymous without KYC, like MorphToken and ChangeNOW.io today

F60B2CDB-6B8E-4EFE-A9F5-6E4EBCECDE12.jpeg

(2017 for the Monero comment, many protocol upgrades since then. Everlasting battle to navigate through securing the loopholes. There have been some well known privacy coins thought more solid than Monero where cracks / bugs / breaches were discovered with a 2 years delay, staying unknown to the public for so long)

old ShapeShift (2018), same comment than for Changelly

FFBDDCB0-0B71-469B-948A-C3F19E258FE9.jpeg


ChangeNOW.io statement in 2019

134CB8F4-D832-4816-890C-3FA428D93C72.jpeg


———

If one doesn’t care to act with attention, it all depends if he/she wants to sleep soundly in the future. If your CTB is immediate, fine. If in a distant future, maybe think twice ...take time. If you’re disabled or incapacitated, that’s something else

@jgm63 thanks a lot for your guides, I know where you come from and it takes a lot of time, research and practice to put up. If you accept some constructive criticism, I might come up to you with some suggestions to address points you made
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: Mainlænder
J

jgm63

Angelic
Oct 28, 2019
2,139
3,327
if i want to buy from like C´s sho/website/BTC adresse

I shouldnt send from Bitpanda directly

and i shouldnt send from bitpanda to electrum to C . First ist logical, but why isnt it enough to just make one electrum wallet?

Is there any fee from, like bitpanda, sending coins to electrum?

Sending from electrum to anywhere there is, of course with Sat/byte
To be secure, you should follow this process :
https://sanctionedsuicide.com/threads/simple-bitcoin-beginners-guide.26742/post-657371
 
J

jgm63

Angelic
Oct 28, 2019
2,139
3,327
Elbarado --
While I was going to refrain from responding to your question, it's an unavoidable feeling that I'll get criticized just like my last post recommending someone to use Tails when ordering from a marketplace. If you come up to me saying that you are cold, and I offer you a blanket to keep warmth, yet you deny it -- that is only your fault why you're still cold. I gave adequate enough information why Tails is recommended to use than traditionally using Tor on your personal machine that is writing to the contents of your hard drive. Any data (unless you've specified Tails to have persistent data) will be erased upon reboot while booted up in Tails.

The reason why I personally recommend going from exchange --> your own electrum wallet on your main PC --> Tails Electrum Wallet --> Market Escrow --> Vendor is that your wallet on Tails is a criminal defense. You were just exchanging money, or something. The bible I linked talks more about this in greater detail. I'd advise looking up yourself, too. An intermediary wallet is suggested and it follows essential OPSEC laid out. In better practice it is better to use ATMs or exchange to Monero and back into BTC. Consult your threat levels. You're likely at the lowest anyway.

From your exchange to a BTC wallet like Electrum you're going to pay the SAT/BYTE fee. It'll vary with the current time and day. If you're being 30 or 40 in SAT you're doing good. Expect to pay higher amounts if you want your coin going into another wallet as quickly as possible. Your Electrum wallet will tell you what prices you should pay for what result in the block.

Thanks for asking me a question about this. Unfortunately, I am exhausted at giving answers to people over-and-over with them ignoring it. I've crticizied the usage of VPNs on this platform, yet others are suggesting to use them anyway. VPNs are essential in enterprise. VPNs are not essential to keep you protective, simply because they do not protect you. You're paying someone to keep the contents of your data "secure". Most VPNs only encrypt the connection from your IP to their server. While you're connected nothing is encrypted and they still are actively logging you. If you have needs why you need a VPN, particularly to get around geo-restrictions, they're great. Otherwise VPNs are glorified ISPs. HTTPS goes a long way at encrypting your traffic. Look it up!

If you want to reach out, PM me. I'm not going to give any advice in this thread anymore. :)

This is not recommended. BTC addresses are public just as marketplace escrow addresses are public. You directly deposit into a marketplace's escrow address from Coinbase and you've incriminated yourself. Not to mention that you've given coinbase your ID upon registration.
@HelensNepenthe I'd like to point out that I wasn't criticising your post (but even if I were, healthy discussion / debate is not a bad thing....)
I was simply stating my view that tails "isn't for everyone". I try to be inclusive of elderly people, or people who struggle a bit with computers.
Even people who used to be good on computers can run out of energy or concentation power, so I try to consider them also.

For people who have the time and energy, tails is a great choice for doing things anonymously, as you correctly state.
Your posts are extremely valuable and you provide excellent information.
There's room for more than one view/mindset on any given thread, and it makes the thread richer.
I hope you will continue to post, however, if you don't wish to then obviously that's your choice...

:heart:
Sounds complicated. I wonder if we can just send bitcoins directly from coinbase?
In some cases it *might* be okay to simply send from coinbase.
This might apply if the vendor has created a new bitcoin address *exclusively for your transaction* and the vendor uses good "coin privacy" practices.

If you think you would use your product very soon after receiving it, then I suppose you could take the view given above, and not worry excessively.
However, it's undesirable to think of such an important decision being driven by those considerations, so only take that approach if you're certain you would have used your product soon after receipt regardless of those factors...

However, the above approach still has a level of risk...
In my view you should try to follow these steps.
They're not that hard, although it could take a few hours to get through them, and you're supposed to leave a time gap between the steps.
 
Last edited:
J

jgm63

Angelic
Oct 28, 2019
2,139
3,327
ALL : Please note that the current wiki copy of the PPH contains bad email addresses, so please be careful, and don't order anything from those addresses.

More info can be found here.

Please be careful everybody.....
It appears there may some scammers active on this forum, due to the bad PPH copy we have seen.

In general, please be wary of anybody offering to sell anything on this forum....
 
a.n.kirillov

a.n.kirillov

only PM please no chat
Nov 17, 2019
910
1,320
Since Spain has shut down all non-essential businesses for the time being, the analysis at the EC lab is also on hold for now. Go figure....

Well, please, if anyone has lab tests of the most recent batch from C, PM me the results. Thank you
 
E

Elbarado

Member
Dec 25, 2019
91
112
Since Spain has shut down all non-essential businesses for the time being, the analysis at the EC lab is also on hold for now. Go figure....

Well, please, if anyone has lab tests of the most recent batch from C, PM me the results. Thank you
That´s sad

so the question now is, if you got your stuff from C, do you trust him or it and give it the try
 
HelensNepenthe

HelensNepenthe

Thoughtful poster
Jan 17, 2019
525
1,758
Reminder there are other laboratories that can test out N for you. Erowid's DrugsData.org has an anonymous service for testing your powder N, whoever your supplier may have been. The Spanish lab is not the only testing center out there. Review their 'Contact Us' page for more information. Erowid lists other data sources that you could possibly contact. Practice safe OPSEC when contacting sources, as per caution.

Screen Shot 2020-03-30 at 2.45.23 AM.png


Best of luck.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: Yomyom
T

terry_a_davis

Specialist
Dec 28, 2019
382
409
RE The comments on tails vs windows, coinbase/bitcoin vs monero.

I know of orders made using tor on windows paying by bitcoin straight from coinbase and they were fine.
If you have the ability to use all security measures such as tails monero pgp 2fa then DEFINITELY do it, but if it means the difference between not being able to order then do it with windows and bitcoin, chances are you will be ok.

There are literally 1000s of orders regularly going through these drug markets, even if there was a way to trace you, as long you're not buying big amounts to start dealing yourself chances are you are not going to interest law enforcement as there's just too much effort involved, they haven't got the resources to trace 1000s of people buying personal use small amounts.

ps ALWAYS use dark.fail for links
 
  • Like
Reactions: jgm63
J

jgm63

Angelic
Oct 28, 2019
2,139
3,327
Reminder there are other laboratories that can test out N for you. Erowid's DrugsData.org has an anonymous service for testing your powder N, whoever your supplier may have been. The Spanish lab is not the only testing center out there. Review their 'Contact Us' page for more information. Erowid lists other data sources that you could possibly contact. Practice safe OPSEC when contacting sources, as per caution.

View attachment 30503

Best of luck.
I was looking into alternatives to energy control, but it seemed none of them offered a quantitative test that would let you know the purity level (ecstasydata.org explains this in their FAQ), so I came away concluding that energy control was the only really useful service at present....
However, everything I've seen so far points towards the N from C being legitimate.
I suppose you could take 100mg (0.1g), and confirm that you get a very good night's sleep, although obviously you have to be *very* careful with the dosage, and I would want to do more checking and research before recommending such a test as being viable.
There are also various self test kits, eg it seems some of the basic "barbiturate detecting" test kits can be picked up very cheaply online...
Perhaps one of us can do an N-testing write-up thread sometime.....
 
HelensNepenthe

HelensNepenthe

Thoughtful poster
Jan 17, 2019
525
1,758
I was looking into alternatives to energy control, but it seemed none of them offered a quantitative test that would let you know the purity level (ecstasydata.org explains this in their FAQ), so I came away concluding that energy control was the only really useful service at present....
However, everything I've seen so far points towards the N from C being legitimate.
I suppose you could take 100mg (0.1g), and confirm that you get a very good night's sleep, although obviously you have to be *very* careful with the dosage, and I would want to do more checking and research before recommending such a test as being viable.
There are also various self test kits, eg it seems some of the basic "barbiturate detecting" test kits can be picked up very cheaply online...
Perhaps one of us can do an N-testing write-up thread sometime.....
That was something I was reading on. There are qualitative services — they lack anonymity and I’m not too read up on the legal issues behind that.
 
  • Like
Reactions: jgm63
J

jgm63

Angelic
Oct 28, 2019
2,139
3,327
RE The comments on tails vs windows, coinbase/bitcoin vs monero.

I know of orders made using tor on windows paying by bitcoin straight from coinbase and they were fine.
If you have the ability to use all security measures such as tails monero pgp 2fa then DEFINITELY do it, but if it means the difference between not being able to order then do it with windows and bitcoin, chances are you will be ok.

There are literally 1000s of orders regularly going through these drug markets, even if there was a way to trace you, as long you're not buying big amounts to start dealing yourself chances are you are not going to interest law enforcement as there's just too much effort involved, they haven't got the resources to trace 1000s of people buying personal use small amounts.

ps ALWAYS use dark.fail for links
Ok, but keep in mind, if you pay directly from, say, coinbase, to a dark net market, there's a possibility of your coinbase account getting suspended (I believe this does happen, though I don't know how universally). This might not be the "end of the world" if you don't plan on using it again, though I suppose there's always the concern of whether information could be passed to other parties.
This might be less of an issue with marketplaces that create a new bitcoin address for each deposit (em**** does this), although this would still need checking, so it still leaves a "lingering concern".

As a minimum, it may therefore be wise to create your own electrum wallet, and transfer to there first, before transferring on to the marketplace....
If you can cope with connecting to a marketplace or setting up protonmail, etc, then you can probably cope with that, since it's pretty easy....

( @terry_a_davis : Out of interest, do you know people who paid direct from coinbase to em**** ? Do you know if their coinbase accounts got suspended later ? I guess that could be worth knowing for people who are desperate to do the absolute fewest steps possible, although I still feel in the general case we should encourage people to use electrum where possible )
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: Mainlænder
enjolras

enjolras

Saw the angel shine through the jellyfish
Feb 13, 2020
220
217
It’s not about protecting us but the sources.

All the major exchanges use blockchain analysis softwares mentioned earlier. So it won’t really matter that you extend a chain of addresses of a coin that rely on a transparent blockchain, to hide the final use. It is absolutely not guaranteed to help.

Coinbase is generally used by newcomers only, not anymore by crypto enthusiasts after educated (except Coinbase Pro for some specific use). They became giants for the simplified access, by applying outrageous fees from a complex pricing structure, and are indeed known for being picky about surveillance, freezing and suspending accounts, filtering selectively both outward and inward transactions on occasions, which are not practices that gets much love from the community.

There are several other fiat to crypto exchange alternatives that are used by more advanced users preferably : Kraken (USA, didn’t yet increase fees now that the cryptos lost their popularity), Bitstamp (Luxemburg with EU Bit-licence, increased fees, now almost as bad as Coinbase), Bittrex (NY, USD fiat only), Bitfinex (suited for large sums >10k), Bitpanda (Austria, for cards, perfect reliability), Wirex (UK, for cards, some issues), all just as heavily regulated, with the highest reputation, offering superior services.

———-

It can be made SO much simpler. About the exchange route alone (not the best)

Sort by “Pair” and search for the exchanges that offer XMR/EUR and XMR/USD trading to figure out the current ones accepting fiat deposits. The highest trading “Volume (24hr)”, over a couple days, is usually a good indicator that it’s the best current choices to follow, just from user adoption. You can review the top 2/3 sites if you have time to waste.
At the moment, Kraken for the US and EU is unmatched, all things considered, but that can evolve (new competitors, evolving stricter regulation > removing pairs that happen with anom. coins time to time)

Acquire XMR at the exchange
Send your XMR to an external wallet (Monerujo on Android - you can buy an old new / used $30 phone for the purpose and/or reset your own to factory settings to be clear - or MyMonero on computer)
Preferably connect to the internet at a Cyber-Cafe or hotspot WiFi outside your home, if can’t be arsed to protect your own computer via Tails and other tricks
Create sub-addresses within wallet, move coins to subs at least once or more (leads to varied inputs between initial exchange / end seller and you)
Pay the seller with XMR (request it), or BTC via the service XMR.to (directly integrated into Monerujo, or website - no need for Tor, if outside)

This will require zero unnecessary coin conversion (procedure hassle which everyone is complaining about) via unsecured external site that could betray you ...and will be much more economical to boot !
Just Kraken is between 3.5 to 30 times cheaper than Coinbase depending on configuration (plus considering hidden costs), then moving XMR is less expensive than moving BTC, less fees lost again between wallets and at another coin exchanger in between (tx/spread/slippage/trading fees bundle packaged - just like XMR.to, which by the way is not cheap and applies a few % in disguise)
Be straight forward, no need to complicate cryptos, save stress, time and money, between 5-12% in total (I was a trader for 12 years, including 4 on cryptos, registered on more than 50 sites, practiced, studied, tested on a daily basis)

Apply common sense (don’t use your own computer if you have no energy or talent to secure it)
Pick the right exchange & deposit method (wire transfer instead of card)
Most importantly, think your coin/site selection in advance to navigate through less services/movements. The correct anonymous coins will improve the anonymity quest by default the most (opposed to internet privacy), in front of any side precautions you can think of and errors done because it’s a complicated topic with many devilish details not to override (the number 1 rule of a Bitcoin guide for illegal use will always be to NOT use Bitcoin)

————-

For Bitcoin and cards, BitPanda will cost about 2.5% (1% for the deposit + 1.5% trading on the buy side) in total, Wirex slightly over 2% (1% + 1%), Coinbase +/- 4.5% (4% + 0.5%). Bitpanda offers withdrawal fees above a certain amount (cost of N, for sure)

For Monero/Bitcoin and wires, Kraken will cost less than 0.16% (cost alone of a limit order + spread partly won, fill almost guaranteed) or 0.26% (market order, guaranteed fill), while Coinbase 0.5% (more or less, from slippage / market conditions that are obscure less transparent than with Coinbase Pro trading, which is possible to use, being verified at Coinbase)

Note : if you use plenty of services/merchandisers, Bitstamp (for europeans / EUR wires only really, or others with card at 5%) offers 100% unlimited free withdrawals, then eventually it can become more advantageous than paying less trading and fundin fees (Kraken), otherwise it’s usually 0.0005 BTC per withdrawal everywhere atm (a couple $ depending on BTC price, varying) - at the times the network become heavily congested and miners charge way higher fees (in the range $20-$40), it becomes even more beneficial
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: Mainlænder
T

terry_a_davis

Specialist
Dec 28, 2019
382
409
( @terry_a_davis : Out of interest, do you know people who paid direct from coinbase to em**** ? Do you know if their coinbase accounts got suspended later ? I guess that could be worth knowing for people who are desperate to do the absolute fewest steps possible, although I still feel in the general case we should encourage people to use electrum where possible )
Yes I know of coinbase darknet transactions with no suspensions because of it, the earliest of which was sep 2019 so I assume it would've been suspended by now if something was flagged.

But I absolutely agree, if you have the tech ability (or can follow online guides) definitely use the most secure methods like you and others have mentioned.
 
D

danilion

Member
Nov 24, 2019
32
34
ALL : Please note that the current wiki copy of the PPH contains bad email addresses, so please be careful, and don't order anything from those addresses.

More info can be found here.

Please be careful everybody.....
It appears there may some scammers active on this forum, due to the bad PPH copy we have seen.

In general, please be wary of anybody offering to sell anything on this forum....
How would you know if you have the correct address for A or if it is a fake one? I had someone give me an email address on Reddit and then I compared that address to the one mentioned in the PPH and it was the same one. So, I thought I had the right address. I was going to order in the next day or two - but after reading this I am worried I might have the wrong address. And how can you be sure you have a good copy of PPH and not a fake? Maybe I will just have to order PPH online. I have 3 copies - 2015, 2018, 2020 (which I found and downloaded online)
 
Last edited:
HelensNepenthe

HelensNepenthe

Thoughtful poster
Jan 17, 2019
525
1,758
How would you know if you have the correct address for A or if it is a fake one? I had someone give me an email address on Reddit and then I compared that address to the one mentioned in the PPH and it was the same one. So, I thought I had the right address. I was going to order in the next day or two - but after reading this I am worried I might have the wrong address. And how can you be sure you have a good copy of PPH and not a fake? Maybe I will just have to order PPH online. I have 3 copies - 2015, 2018, 2020 (which I found and downloaded online)
Cross referencing is your only way of guaranteeing the authenticity of A's email address. @jgm63 has several posts assisting users in finding the correct address. If you follow his posts, you'll come across the genuine address.
 
  • Like
Reactions: enjolras
J

jgm63

Angelic
Oct 28, 2019
2,139
3,327
How would you know if you have the correct address for A or if it is a fake one? I had someone give me an email address on Reddit and then I compared that address to the one mentioned in the PPH and it was the same one. So, I thought I had the right address. I was going to order in the next day or two - but after reading this I am worried I might have the wrong address. And how can you be sure you have a good copy of PPH and not a fake? Maybe I will just have to order PPH online. I have 3 copies - 2015, 2018, 2020 (which I found and downloaded online)
If you read the link I gave in my post that you replied to, on that thread is a link to a good version of the PPH.
However, I'll repeat the info here :

If you need access to the PPH, please use :
https://sanctionedsuicide.com/threads/pph-dec-2019.30370/
 
D

danilion

Member
Nov 24, 2019
32
34
If you read the link I gave in my post that you replied to, on that thread is a link to a good version of the PPH.
However, I'll repeat the info here :

If you need access to the PPH, please use :
https://sanctionedsuicide.com/threads/pph-dec-2019.30370/
I did go to that link earlier but I still wasn't sure if I was looking at a legit copy. Thank you for confirming the link for me. I am going to use it to compare the email I have to the one written in PPH.
 
A

afternoon-exit

Member
Jan 16, 2020
9
7
Ok so I have successfully obtained 25g of N. From what I've read this contains about 12-16g of pure N. I'm a bit confused, should someone consume the whole 25g to CTB, or what would be a guaranteed dosage?
 
LMLN

LMLN

Wizard
Aug 10, 2019
659
2,628
Ok so I have successfully obtained 25g of N. From what I've read this contains about 12-16g of pure N. I'm a bit confused, should someone consume the whole 25g to CTB, or what would be a guaranteed dosage?
It depends on the purity of the batch you have. The only way to be certain is to have it tested.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Mainlænder
B

Brokenwings

New Member
Mar 30, 2020
2
3
Hi everyone,

I'm writing this just to keep a record of what I know from the original "Chinese N" megathread, which disappeared recently (possibly due to deletion by OP). I've been a longtime lurker of the original r/sanctioned suicide and have been latently suicidal for about 4 years. Before SN became as widely accepted as it is now, N was the absolute gold standard. A couple months ago things got really bad for me and I got SN, but I've always dreamed of using N because of the fact that you are guaranteed to go in your sleep, while SN involves some prolonged consciousness + headaches & stomachaches (based on anecdotal reports).

I figure if you're going to die once, it may as well be in the best manner possible. Dying in one's sleep is everyone's dream. Once it's in your system, it's like you can fade out without even knowing that you've outsmarted your SI. But I do agree that SN is the most cost-effective, accessible alternative.

IIRC, SN has a PPH rating of 38/50, while N has a rating of 44/50 primarily due to its underrated "sleep-death" factor. For North Americans, N from A now goes for $750, while it used to go for $400-500 several years ago. There have generally been 4 named sources of N: A, B, C, and D. A of course has been the most reliable source of N for 4+ years, but increased scrutiny from law enforcement has led to multiple reports of police raids in 2019. Some recent buyers have found that the product came repackaged or contaminated, or that A ghosts them after payment even if the package doesn't get delivered. [Please refer to the excellent thread by Ark.] This makes me wary of purchasing from him, and I regret not ordering back in 2018 when prices were lower.

B and D were originally named in the PPH as alternative sellers, but have since been established as scammers (B recently exit-scammed while D still solicits payment but doesn't deliver / blackmails for more money, iirc). C is a new seller I found mentioned on this forum who sells on the Dark Web Empire Market. He hasn't been named yet in the PPH but a now-deleted thread called "Chinese N" had accounts of people successfully ordering 25 g from C for ~$500. One of the posters got a sample lab tested by Energy Control, which confirmed a purity of at least 64%. This would mean the 25 g from C contains about 16 g of pure N, which is more than enough to CTB with.

Aside from A, C is now the only viable seller with a decent track record. I am fairly experienced with using Dark Web markets, and I am leaning towards N from C for several reasons: 1) C has 14 positive reviews for his N listing on Empire Market, as well as 400+ positive reviews as a seller overall; 2) C sells 10+ pages of other drugs and research chemicals, which shows that he's looking for viable long-term business as a drug dealer; 3) Empire Market has an escrow system, which means your funds are released to C if and only if you receive your package; 4) 20 g N can be easily dissolved in 50 mL of water, which is MUCH easier to drink vs the two bottles of 6 g N dissolved in 100 ml injection solution that A sells. A sells veterinary grade injectable N, which is meant to be put in an IV, and therefore has shit like ethanol and propylene glycol, all of which make it harder to swallow. You also can't inject this N yourself because you will pass out before you can get all of in your system, which is why the PPH still instructs people to drink N from A. N from A comes predissolved in 200 ml of this injection solution, while N from C can be dissolved in pure water at 4X lower volumes. So I think powder N is definitely better, if you can get it.

25 g N from C used to go for $550 on Empire Market up until several weeks ago, when the price suddenly bumped up to $700. N shipments were also recently delayed due to low stock and the extra time needed for lab synthesis (according to another user who messaged C on the "Chinese N" thread). Here again I missed the boat on a more reasonable price for N (just my luck lol), so I messaged C to ask about the recent price bump. According to him, the product is hard to synthesize and keep pure, so the lab he sources from raised prices on him. This makes me a little hesitant to go for the N immediately, but nevertheless $700 with escrow (and a tracking number!) is still a better deal than the $750 with no tracking and shady delivery history that A is now offering.

Anyway, those are my general thoughts and observations on N from C and the sources for N in general. Because the original Chinese N thread was deleted and there's nowhere else I see for this info, I was hoping we could establish this as a megathread to share any new information on alternative N sources. I am on the fence about pulling the trigger on N from C atm, but if I do order I will be sure to post updates until it gets delivered. If I have some extra time afterwards before CTB, I may also get my N lab tested by Energy Control like another user did, just to be sure that my N is pure and good for bus-catching.

Happy Holidays - whatever the fuck that means -_-
I would love a fool proof way to pass while asleep ,drift away peaceful
 
Mainlænder

Mainlænder

A denial
May 20, 2019
142
327
We don't know yet the purity of his last batch, but it has to be supposed it will be above 70%, so if you have a normal bodyweight it should be enough if you take 18-20g. It would be better if you could test it.