[Help] Little or No Sleep At All

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They medical profession want lobotomised zombies who behave. They want people with mental health issues to be docile and placid and not a problem for society. Tossers!!!
 
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They medical profession want lobotomised zombies who behave. They want people with mental health issues to be docile and placid and not a problem for society. Tossers!!!
I wish I didn't think you are right. :notsure:
Unfortunately, if you deprive someone of their volition and motivation, then I feel you have an obligation to care for them as they cannot care for themselves if they are docile and placid. This doesn't happen though.
If you want people to care for themselves, then you cannot expect them to be docile and placid and unopinionated.
You can't have it both ways, but that is what they demand and since they have all the power, this then sets up a system that is bound to fail.
Really, I think the whole system generally sucks in every single way. It's not even actually helpful to them as professionals and they are fools for continuing to labour under this dangerous but comfortable consensus.
 
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They medical profession want lobotomised zombies who behave. They want people with mental health issues to be docile and placid and not a problem for society. Tossers!!!

Yep not much has changed since they started has it? It looks better on the outside but it's the same in a lot of ways. It only took a few okanzapine to do my head in, while in withdrawal from lyrica, which I didn't need either but was handed it.

In that withdrawal they gave me lexapro, olanzapine, abilfy, quietapine, some valium, a few sleeping tablets maybe. Talk about throw stuff at the wall....

That's how I stopped sleeping. Lost my home and job at same time and just been not right ever since. I could sue them but I can't remember enough about it all now
 
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Yep not much has changed since they started has it? It looks better on the outside but it's the same in a lot of ways. It only took a few okanzapine to do my head in, while in withdrawal from lyrica, which I didn't need either but was handed it.

In that withdrawal they gave me lexapro, olanzapine, abilfy, quietapine, some valium, a few sleeping tablets maybe. Talk about throw stuff at the wall....

That's how I stopped sleeping. Lost my home and job at same time and just been not right ever since. I could sue them but I can't remember enough about it all now
Yeah not much has changed. Mental health issues and insomnia are still taboo to society no matter what they say. It’s still stigmatised and no one can tell me any different. Why were they throwing all these drugs at you? All at the same time ? Or at different times? Why didn’t they taper the lyrica? It makes no sense. Cutting costs and covering their own arse , while not taking responsibility for patient care. Hippocratic oath.... my arse. Too much bureaucracy, not enough patient care. They are negligent.
I’m so sorry that you lost your home and job. A loss like this is not conducive to healthy sleep. My sleep problem stemmed from the loss of something too. Hugs to you, from me. :hug: :heart:
 
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Yeah not much has changed. Mental health issues and insomnia are still taboo to society no matter what they say. It’s still stigmatised and no one can tell me any different. Why were they throwing all these drugs at you? All at the same time ? Or at different times? Why didn’t they taper the lyrica? It makes no sense. Cutting costs and covering their own arse , while not taking responsibility for patient care. Hippocratic oath.... my arse. Too much bureaucracy, not enough patient care. They are negligent.
I’m so sorry that you lost your home and job. A loss like this is not conducive to healthy sleep. My sleep problem stemmed from the loss of something too. Hugs to you, from me. :hug: :heart:

Thankyou .
It got really messy and complicated. I had to come off it because it made me sick suddenly so I couldn't taper it. But that I could have managed , it was the lexapro and zyprexa they gave me in the first couple weeks that threw me over the edge. I wasn't psychotic but couldn't sleep so yeah, antipsychotics thanks doc. My brain was really fragile from the lyrica, I was confused and emotional. I just needed my own bed. It's hard to talk about that time still. Lost everything, had a breakdown, then they kept giving me different things and making it worse
 
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Thankyou .
It got really messy and complicated. I had to come off it because it made me sick suddenly so I couldn't taper it. But that I could have managed , it was the lexapro and zyprexa they gave me in the first couple weeks that threw me over the edge. I wasn't psychotic but couldn't sleep so yeah, antipsychotics thanks doc. My brain was really fragile from the lyrica, I was confused and emotional. I just needed my own bed. It's hard to talk about that time still. Lost everything, had a breakdown, then they kept giving me different things and making it worse
You’re welcome hun. I don’t think they should have given you antipsychotic when/if you don’t need them. That is out of order. They could have given you something similar to the lyrica. Something a bit more mild, but effective for what you needed it for. Where you depressed at the time? Doctor in Britain gave me trazadone and now mirtazipine. They are both sedative antidepressants. That get me off to sleep. Even they would/ might have been a better option than hardcore nasty, harsh antipsychotic meds.
 
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You’re welcome hun. I don’t think they should have given you antipsychotic when/if you don’t need them. That is out of order. They could have given you something similar to the lyrica. Something a bit more mild, but effective for what you needed it for. Where you depressed at the time? Doctor in Britain gave me trazadone and now mirtazipine. They are both sedative antidepressants. That get me off to sleep. Even they would/ might have been a better option than hardcore nasty, harsh antipsychotic meds.

I was depressed but really didn't need anything for it if that makes sense, I knew I just needed to feel what was happening at the time, a lot of changes, but was under pressure from family at the time to take more meds. I was just really weak from all the chemicals in me, I think lyrica depleted some nutrients or something, something felt so off but I couldn't explain it properly.

They did give me mirtazapine actually, another one that had a bad effect. I had been through a lot over the years drug wise, I think my body and soul just had enough.
 
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I was depressed but really didn't need anything for it if that makes sense, I knew I just needed to feel what was happening at the time, a lot of changes, but was under pressure from family at the time to take more meds. I was just really weak from all the chemicals in me, I think lyrica depleted some nutrients or something, something felt so off but I couldn't explain it properly.

They did give me mirtazapine actually, another one that had a bad effect. I had been through a lot over the years drug wise, I think my body and soul just had enough.
Sometimes meds can deplete your nutritional stores. Eggs contain choline which is good for the brain and can even make you sleepy if eaten at night.
Yeah being put under pressure to take meds is definitely a thing. No one should be put under pressure to go on any meds. I’m not disparaging your family or anything but no one should pressure any one to take meds because it is convenient for families.
It is in my personal opinion that you should have been able to choose what you did with your mind and your body. Stress, extreme stress will deplete nutrients because the body is in permanent fight or flight mode. I’m speaking from experience. Today’s society is awful and the way we live is unnatural. Working 9 to 5 is unnatural, cities are unnatural. The system around money, a social construct, is unnatural. Social pressures for men and women are immense. I think all you needed was a holiday in the sun, nice exercise and be surrounded by nature. These components that I have just mentioned all amount to mental health issues and anxiety and depression and insomnia. Society is now very unnatural. This is why we are all on this forum. All you needed was good healthy food and a break from the unnatural system that is human society and how it is today.
Sometimes meds can deplete your nutritional stores. Eggs contain choline which is good for the brain and can even make you sleepy if eaten at night.
Yeah being put under pressure to take meds is definitely a thing. No one should be put under pressure to go on any meds. I’m not disparaging your family or anything but no one should pressure any one to take meds because it is convenient for families.
It is in my personal opinion that you should have been able to choose what you did with your mind and your body. Stress, extreme stress will deplete nutrients because the body is in permanent fight or flight mode. I’m speaking from experience. Today’s society is awful and the way we live is unnatural. Working 9 to 5 is unnatural, cities are unnatural. The system around money, a social construct, is unnatural. Social pressures for men and women are immense. I think all you needed was a holiday in the sun, nice exercise and be surrounded by nature. These components that I have just mentioned all amount to mental health issues and anxiety and depression and insomnia. Society is now very unnatural. This is why we are all on this forum. All you needed was good healthy food and a break from the unnatural system that is human society and how it is today.
Forgot to add , cod liver oil is very good for us. It’s good for the brain.
 
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This thread reminded me my horrible breakdowns, i couldn’t sleep and woke up from bad somnolence sweating and feeling oppressed. It just kills you very quickly, your brain can’t function properly. That was the worst, putting an end to that fast led to plotting my own demise.
 
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I’m in the same boat as far as lack of sleep. It causes it’s own issues and makes any existing ones exponentially worse. I’m exhausted all the time, yet it is so difficult to fall asleep and stay asleep. Let us know if a solution is found, especially if it’s over the counter.
 
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I’m in the same boat as far as lack of sleep. It causes it’s own issues and makes any existing ones exponentially worse. I’m exhausted all the time, yet it is so difficult to fall asleep and stay asleep. Let us know if a solution is found, especially if it’s over the counter.
Have you heard of Sominex? You can buy it over the counter. Yes I agree that lack of sleep makes any existing problems so much worse. My problem is falling asleep. Hugs to you :hug:
This thread reminded me my horrible breakdowns, i couldn’t sleep and woke up from bad somnolence sweating and feeling oppressed. It just kills you very quickly, your brain can’t function properly. That was the worst, putting an end to that fast led to plotting my own demise.
Hugs from me to you! Yes my brain doesn’t function at all well when I haven’t slept. My balance is off, I’m clumsy and it’s hard to do basic tasks.:hug:
 
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I feel like we should create an insomnia resource thread for the recovery section. It might help a lot of people. I know I started participating more on this forum after my insomnia began.
 
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I feel like we should create an insomnia resource thread for the recovery section. It might help a lot of people. I know I started participating more on this forum after my insomnia began.
Yes that’s a great idea! I was thinking of doing that. I would like a resource thread for Insomnia. I think it would help people whose insomnia has ruined/ affected their mental health or whose mental health issues have given them insomnia.
Creating a resource thread for insomnia would be extremely valuable and helpful!
 
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Ever since I got put on Geodon, I’ve had steadily worsening insomnia that has gotten to the point where I can’t sleep at all. It has been days without any sleep. I would say this is the primary reason why I would like to CTB. I tell people about it and they say they can’t sleep either, but they just have regular insomnia which means they sleep 5 hours a night, but at least they sleep. At this point I feel like someone has cursed me or I have fatal insomnia. I can’t even imagine myself getting more than an hour of sleep.
 
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Not sleeping is torture. I haven't slept more than 5 hours in over a year. Most nights I get 3 hours of sleep max. Most of the day is spent in a semi-unconscious state, unable to think. The insomnia with my other health problems and depression are what brought me here in the first place. Wouldn't wish insomnia on my worst enemy.