Is SuicidePartners.org legit?

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Yeah but what about A
A runs a genuine business, basically supplying a means of choice. He's legit.

Scammers prey on the vulnerable, and steal from them. There is no business, they supply nothing. They are the lowest of the low, and they should crawl back into the putrid sewer they hide in.

There is no comparison between A and a scammer. None.
 
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Strongly disagree....A and the previous sellers are like those jacking up water and fuel prices in emergencies. They are taking advantage of people in desperate situations for personal profit. He isn't some saint because he sells something you want or need. I bought N years ago at half what it goes for now and even that was absurdly high priced. There is no excuse but avarice. Allowing or increasing suffering for money is pure evil.
He could go to jail for life man. Its risk/reward. It's safe to say people are suffering less because of him. Sure hes after profit but that doesnt make him evil.
 
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Like I said no argument changes the fact he is making a killing off of it. I could never do that. I personally don't find risk of punishment a valid reason to take advantage of the suffering. People have different values though. I am constantly confounded by those who suffer so much in this life...largely due to greed and selfishness or corporations and individuals alike....who defend it with such rationalizations.
Yes hes making a living off of supplying people with a good. He increased the price because his client base grew exponentially. If you think his business model Is so unethical, dont buy from him.
 
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Yes hes making a living off of supplying people with a good. He increased the price because his client base grew exponentially. If you think his business model Is so unethical, dont buy from him.
"A living" sounds to me like average salary. Getting by. Not being homeless/in debt.

The guy is getting richer than rich off this. He doesn't need to be a vet anymore. He doesn't need to be anything. In Mexico he is basically Buffet.

He could still get super rich if he sold it for less. Maybe a Bentley less. But he is as greedy as Bezos* who practically owns slaves.

*If you don't know about Bezos: He is the richest person on the planet while his employees are literally physically barely surviving. And no they can't just leave. The job market doesn't exactly give people choice.

Regarding that site: Looks like a scam to me with the "BUY NEMBUTAL" text. There used to be a legitimate site for partners but the government shut it down many years ago (when I was a kid and first thought about CTBing). I don't remember the name, sorry.
 
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"A living" sounds to me like average salary. Getting by. Not being homeless/in debt.

The guy is getting richer than rich off this. He doesn't need to be a vet anymore. He doesn't need to be anything. In Mexico he is basically Buffet.

He could still get super rich if he sold it for less. Maybe a Bentley less. But he is as greedy as Bezos* who practically owns slaves.

*If you don't know about Bezos: He is the richest person on the planet while his employees are literally physically barely surviving. And no they can't just leave. The job market doesn't exactly give people choice.

Regarding that site: Looks like a scam to me with the "BUY NEMBUTAL" text. There used to be a legitimate site for partners but the government shut it down many years ago (when I was a kid and first thought about CTBing). I don't remember the name, sorry.
Bezos pays all his employees 15$ an hour while employing half a million people. Sure his wealth is absurd but who the fuck cares. Comparing a vet that sells N to Bezos is ridiculous. He hasn't made close to a million dollars. Maybe 100k at the most. Mexico city is more expensive than you think.
 
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The site you reference is a scam. I don't have much of an opinion of A. He's taking a calculated risk and getting rich. It's kind of how the world of capitalism works. If others wanted to take the risk and undercut him, then you'd have market competition and it would be a different story. I'd feel differently about A if there was some sort of scholarship or charity side to things for those that truly are suffering and have no money. I'm sure that would open him up to all kinds of headaches. He's no saint but I don't think he's scum.
 
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"Meeting a suicide partner is easy but getting the required drug can be difficult. That is why we make sure you buy (N) online without losing money."

From their contact us page. If its not a scam, then at least id say they havent researched their market properly or are a little delusional.

Off topic; i wonder what the markup for A's N is?
 
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If you think A is scum (which I don’t, for sure), then you would also have to throw PN and Dignitas into the same boat. PN and his organization charge $80 for the book, and he pedals his wares with tactics such as “Black Friday sales” (I received an email from Exit on Black Friday).

Dignitas charges approx 10k to die there—no small sum, and beyond the reach of the average person.

A doesn’t “advertise” like PN, and I would bet his price is negotiable—wild, gut instinct talking here.

A is risking a lot to sell N to people who have no other option but to die, or who want the option of a peaceful exit; I quite respect him.
 
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Strongly disagree....A and the previous sellers are like those jacking up water and fuel prices in emergencies. They are taking advantage of people in desperate situations for personal profit. He isn't some saint because he sells something you want or need. I bought N years ago at half what it goes for now and even that was absurdly high priced. There is no excuse but avarice. Allowing or increasing suffering for money is pure evil.
If there was no A, no one on this forum could get N.

Shipping and moving N is expensive and dangerous. I'm sorry that you feel the way you do. But the reality is that this is how things are. Instead of blaming A for the price of an illegal commodity, blame those who made it illegal, not the person who goes above and beyond to try to help as many as possible.

Your anger is misdirected. Blame the institutions that demand safe places like r/SanctionedSuicide and r/TimetoGo be permanently deleted, but supports and funds r/SuicideWatch. The same institutions that believe that living in agony in hospice care is more important than you having the right to control your life.
 
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The 2010 Peaceful Pill handbook says people reported going to Mexico to buy it and were paying around $11 to $31 per bottle at pharmacies and vets...and remember they weren't giving it away for their cost and were making a profit even then. The stuff is dirt cheap to make and for wholesale vet costs. When it became more widely known the prices rocketed very quickly and are still going up.
Bruh noone would risk mandatory life in prison for 20 dollars a bottle. We need a new N dealer. Why not go down to Mexico and start shipping it to people. Honestly I've thought about it.
 
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The 2010 Peaceful Pill handbook says people reported going to Mexico to buy it and were paying around $11 to $31 per bottle at pharmacies and vets...and remember they weren't giving it away for their cost and were making a profit even then. The stuff is dirt cheap to make and for wholesale vet costs. When it became more widely known the prices rocketed very quickly and are still going up.
Traveling to Mexico is expensive, time consuming, and life upending. I have all sorts of money. If I travel to Mexico from where I am in the US suddenly or in the short term, it would be an expensive endeavor that would and screw up my work schedule. You don't take into the exorbitant costs of the sort of business A is involved in.

Have you lived in Mexico or do you have any sort of knowledge of the sorts of problems A may face in Mexico? Especially with the current political climate in Mexico?
 
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I blame both. He could sell it for a more reasonable markup but sells it for riches because he has the market cornered. In short I hate both the game of capitalism and the players who take advantage.
I’m grateful A exists and it isn’t even my method.

I’m grateful for PN too, even though his .org leaves a sour taste in my mouth.

I support anyone who helps anyone achieve a peaceful exit.

We need suicide booths for all, that’s for sure. A peaceful death should be made available for anyone regardless of inability to pay or ability to set up equipment.

Until we have this, we truly live in a barbaric society.
 
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Traveling to Mexico is expensive, time consuming, and life upending. I have all sorts of money. If I travel to Mexico from where I am in the US suddenly or in the short term, it would be an expensive endeavor that would and screw up my work schedule. You don't take into the exorbitant costs of the sort of business A is involved in.

Have you lived in Mexico or do you have any sort of knowledge of the sorts of problems A may face in Mexico? Especially with the current political climate in Mexico?
It's mandatory life in prison if he is extradited. That is a price to pay even if he isnt caught. You must factor that into the overall cost.
 
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I blame both. He could sell it for a more reasonable markup but sells it for riches because he has the market cornered. You can sell things without gouging. In short I hate both the game of capitalism and the players who take advantage. I don't believe for a second he is doing it to "help" people...rather to get paid. If I had access to wholesale N and was in a position to sell it I would not be marking it up 50x my cost or more. That's to me the difference between helping and capitalizing. I got my N from China a while back for HALF what they were charging before the stopped. A's prices were much lower then too. None of those people were doing it for us.
You simply can’t conpare China and Mexico.
 
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I am not going to argue over this...especially not with the site moderator as that never works out well online. I have made my views on the topic known. People have the right to disagree...but they don't have the right to force my view to change.
I will never discipline a user for disagreeing with me.

Ever.

Thank you for sharing your views, please feel free to continue to share them the respectful manner you have been.
 
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If you think A is scum (which I don’t, for sure), then you would also have to throw PN and Dignitas into the same boat. PN and his organization charge $80 for the book, and he pedals his wares with tactics such as “Black Friday sales” (I received an email from Exit on Black Friday).

Dignitas charges approx 10k to die there—no small sum, and beyond the reach of the average person.

A doesn’t “advertise” like PN, and I would bet his price is negotiable—wild, gut instinct talking here.

A is risking a lot to sell N to people who have no other option but to die, or who want the option of a peaceful exit; I quite respect him.
Yes.

Incidentally, PN has recently announced he is getting record sales. That's not hundreds, or thousands. It's tens of thousands, every year, x US$80. Millions of $. It goes to the private commercial arm, the PPeH, not the charitable institution Exit Int. All perfectly legal, for sure.
 
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I blame both. He could sell it for a more reasonable markup but sells it for riches because he has the market cornered. You can sell things without gouging. In short I hate both the game of capitalism and the players who take advantage. I don't believe for a second he is doing it to "help" people...rather to get paid. If I had access to wholesale N and was in a position to sell it I would not be marking it up 50x my cost or more. That's to me the difference between helping and capitalizing. I got my N from China a while back for HALF what they were charging before the stopped. A's prices were much lower then too. None of those people were doing it for us.
Have you tested your powdered N? The china source was found to be diluting it for quite some time in ever increasing amounts. I would either test it or not trust it.
 
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Not tested it as I didn't want to unseal it for longevity...but I got it from well before that debacle, from a different seller than the one who did that but who was the main reliable seller at the time, and knew several people who successfully used it who got it from the same seller and time I did.
Whew! Good then. Just want to make sure the info is out there for folks who might not be up on it. :)
 
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thrw_a_way1221221

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Personally, I'd stay away from sites that offer partners and stuff as I'd have trust issues IRL. This stems from being burned in the past and being hurt before so now I have a very hard time to just open up to people or trust them.

In regards to the talk about A's business and N itself, I'm not getting it due to the logistics, costs, and risks (legal and social ramifications), thus I've went with the firearm method. I see no problem with A doing his own business the way he does and he is actually helping out the people who need to ctb. I agree that we live in a shitty society in which certain institutions and organizations censor vulnerable people like us and shutdown our few sanctuaries around the Internet and what not, then also persecute people who attempt and fail (or those who plan).

Speaking of the price itself, well that's just a bit more expensive than the firearm I bought over a week ago, but I suppose a decent firearm could be just that much or perhaps even more expensive. Overall, given the prices and my circumstances I went with the firearm, but that's just me. Others are free to choose whichever method they want and perhaps N would be more suitable for their circumstances, thus each to each's own.
 

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