[Resource] How to hang yourself

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I know how you feel, instincts dont care about our emotions...
that's weird, huh? if i continue to live, then I will experience pain, that the stage passed already ... but instincts think differently, why!?
Tomorrow the season ends in the game, but this is just a SI excuse.... i dont know this logick
Yes I can't do it
And yet I can't live either. I am not living just existing and breathing air. So horrid because I used to be such a lively person. More depressed than ever now
may be worth changing position?
 
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Yes I can't do it
And yet I can't live either. I am not living just existing and breathing air. So horrid because I used to be such a lively person. More depressed than ever now
Yes I can't do it
And yet I can't live either. I am not living just existing and breathing air. So horrid because I used to be such a lively person. More depressed than ever now
know exactly how you feel; feeling nothing but sadness; mearly floating by... perhaps the irony is feeling weak and because of that weakness cant be brave.
I second what SomebodyBroken said; i couldnt get fuzzy or warm feeling or even close to convulsion while hanging in sitting postion once i switched and switched noose postion on neck i get feeling, but scary shaking and cant see...
that's weird, huh? if i continue to live, then I will experience pain, that the stage passed already ... but instincts think differently, why!?
Tomorrow the season ends in the game, but this is just a SI excuse.... i dont know this logick

may be worth changing position?
I can also relate with SI excuses; i feel like i constntly say things to postpone ctb.
 
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know exactly how you feel; feeling nothing but sadness; mearly floating by... perhaps the irony is feeling weak and because of that weakness cant be brave.
I second what SomebodyBroken said; i couldnt get fuzzy or warm feeling or even close to convulsion while hanging in sitting postion once i switched and switched noose postion on neck i get feeling, but scary shaking and cant see...

I can also relate with SI excuses; i feel like i constntly say things to postpone ctb.
Well, my situation in life is such that if I don’t do it in a week, it will be too late.I've been trying for more than a month already, but I give up ... SI saddens.
Now I remember that there is no future for me, and most of the possibilities are closed in life. helps to tune and overcome the border ^ _ ^
 
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Well, my situation in life is such that if I don’t do it in a week, it will be too late.I've been trying for more than a month already, but I give up ... SI saddens.
Now I remember that there is no future for me, and most of the possibilities are closed in life. helps to tune and overcome the border ^ _ ^
Why will it be too late?

I wanted to be N but now my family has been alerted as to how severe,y depressed I am and they will not leave my side. No way to receive packages now.
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know exactly how you feel; feeling nothing but sadness; mearly floating by... perhaps the irony is feeling weak and because of that weakness cant be brave.
I second what SomebodyBroken said; i couldnt get fuzzy or warm feeling or even close to convulsion while hanging in sitting postion once i switched and switched noose postion on neck i get feeling, but scary shaking and cant see...

I can also relate with SI excuses; i feel like i constntly say things to postpone ctb.
I also have severe cognitive impairment from being so severely depressed and anxious for so long and I'm not bragging but I used to be very sharp, ambitious, confident in my abilities at work. That's all flushed down the toilet now
 
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Well, my situation in life is such that if I don’t do it in a week, it will be too late.I've been trying for more than a month already, but I give up ... SI saddens.
Now I remember that there is no future for me, and most of the possibilities are closed in life. helps to tune and overcome the border ^ _ ^
Similar sitution, best way for me to go is this week; people i live with are away; if dont get it now i will lose chance, or find another thing to hold weight that wouldnt makes noises.
because in a week they will have to return to their relatives. and there is no chance of a successful completion.
Well, I went to try again xD its fun situation...
wow that is me right now as well; family away for a few hours a day this week, today was my last day; i dont know what i will do now.
 
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Similar sitution, best way for me to go is this week; people i live with are away; if dont get it now i will lose chance, or find another thing to hold weight that wouldnt makes noises.

wow that is me right now as well; family away for a few hours a day this week, today was my last day; i dont know what i will do now.
Well, as I noticed - the problem is to combine a sweet spot and a rope ....
it’s easy to separate, but when I find a sweet spot, I don’t have time to get into the rope, no matter how it sounds ..
so we can drop in 10+ floor :P
or can go and swim away to sea the influence of alcohol? or its my SI found excuse to quit trying now
 
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Just a lil question, but I saw a video linked on this site about a month ago of a woman hanging herself full suspension. Instead of releasing herself and dropping, she used her arms to lower herself. I also read here that you’re not supposed to drop, but they never specified what exactly you’re supposed to do. Would lowering yourself be just as successful as, say, just kicking the bucket or chair and letting your weight/gravity do the job?
 

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Just a lil question, but I saw a video linked on this site about a month ago of a woman hanging herself full suspension. Instead of releasing herself and dropping, she used her arms to lower herself. I also read here that you’re not supposed to drop, but they never specified what exactly you’re supposed to do. Would lowering yourself be just as successful as, say, just kicking the bucket or chair and letting your weight/gravity do the job?
Do you remember in which thread you saw this video? I would like to take a look at it. I've been experimenting with a rope and I think I've got it pretty much figured out, but I'm trying to gather as much video material as possible to make sure I don't fuck it up. Thanks.
 

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Do you remember in which thread you saw this video? I would like to take a look at it. I've been experimenting with a rope and I think I've got it pretty much figured out, but I'm trying to gather as much video material as possible to make sure I don't fuck it up. Thanks.
Definitely. I’ll see if I can find it and link it for you asap.

Edit: Here’s the video:
It’s Very Graphic Just To Warn You

This site has a lot of “good” videos, but be super cautious and DO NOT look at the comments. They’re extremely racist and bigoted, and very hurtful.
 
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Fuck it. In my latest try i leaned from the little hill so my body was almost at horizontal position. I can't believe this pressure isn't enough to compress these damn arteries. I even compressed the windpipe so hard i had some troubles breathing and heard air whistlling through it. No dizzyness, no even tingling lips. I'm kinda shocked it didn't work. Damn.
I think it's because of my neck anatomy. Either it too thin, or my windpipe too large. Or maybe both, i feel my pulse just at sides of windpipe. I've experienced bloodchoke, i know it can work, but windpipe sorta gets in the way of the noose so pressure applies mostly to windpipe. I tried to place knot at face side and fall backwards on my spine but all i can felt is pressure build up.

I'm pazzled. I think only thing left for me to try with my rope is full suspension. But there are things that holding me back. First, it's obviously scary af. I once tried to do long drop from my window but couldn't. Think i need just t push myself.
Second, i'm very discoureged with my experience at partial. If i short drop and don't pass out quickly it'll be torture to death. Not nice. And i have serious doubts that i can pass out with the noose. Also, if i let gravity do that work for me (bu sitting/kneeling) noose tends to slip up my neck and thus pressure Adam's apple which is really painful. I mean, really. Even compressing windpipe is nothing in comparison.

Any advices?
 

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Definitely. I’ll see if I can find it and link it for you asap.

Edit: Here’s the video:
It’s Very Graphic Just To Warn You

This site has a lot of “good” videos, but be super cautious and DO NOT look at the comments. They’re extremely racist and bigoted, and very hurtful.
Thank you so much. Naturally, because of your warning I couldn't resist checking out the comments... damn, what a disgusting cesspool.
 
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Fuck it. In my latest try i leaned from the little hill so my body was almost at horizontal position. I can't believe this pressure isn't enough to compress these damn arteries. I even compressed the windpipe so hard i had some troubles breathing and heard air whistlling through it. No dizzyness, no even tingling lips. I'm kinda shocked it didn't work. Damn.
I think it's because of my neck anatomy. Either it too thin, or my windpipe too large. Or maybe both, i feel my pulse just at sides of windpipe. I've experienced bloodchoke, i know it can work, but windpipe sorta gets in the way of the noose so pressure applies mostly to windpipe. I tried to place knot at face side and fall backwards on my spine but all i can felt is pressure build up.

I'm pazzled. I think only thing left for me to try with my rope is full suspension. But there are things that holding me back. First, it's obviously scary af. I once tried to do long drop from my window but couldn't. Think i need just t push myself.
Second, i'm very discoureged with my experience at partial. If i short drop and don't pass out quickly it'll be torture to death. Not nice. And i have serious doubts that i can pass out with the noose. Also, if i let gravity do that work for me (bu sitting/kneeling) noose tends to slip up my neck and thus pressure Adam's apple which is really painful. I mean, really. Even compressing windpipe is nothing in comparison.

Any advices?
Are you still trying rope; have you tried scarf again under adams apple? Not that Im saying rope wont work; just for comforts sake. Also, my last attmpt to almost passing out I was leaning forward standing and on my tippy toes facing upward putting pressure on my lower neck; and scard is thin, thin part on adams apple so i barely feeling it and thincker rolled under.
 
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Oh man. I just tied a slipknot into some nice rock climbing rope, looped it around a doorjamb pullup bar, and practiced for a partial.

Ohnonono. That is way too scary. I laughed out loud. Not even close to something I could pull off. My hat's off to those who were successful this way.
 
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Oh man. I just tied a slipknot into some nice rock climbing rope, looped it around a doorjamb pullup bar, and practiced for a partial.

Ohnonono. That is way too scary. I laughed out loud. Not even close to something I could pull off. My hat's off to those who were successful this way.
Not to sound influencing or try and change your choice; but perhaps alcohol could help if you can get some? I took 4 over the counter sleep aids and got close to passing out. It just took multiple attempt to get use to feeling of convulsion.
 

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Not to sound influencing or try and change your choice; but perhaps alcohol could help if you can get some? I took 4 over the counter sleep aids and got close to passing out. It just took multiple attempt to get use to feeling of convulsion.
Perhaps. Honestly I'd have to get some Xanax too--who knows how--and pass out on my feet.

So you started convulsing in a partial suspension. How much of your weight did you put into it? Were you "sitting" with your feet just dragging on the ground? I wanted to try this but, you know. It seemed like that woulda been it right there
 
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Perhaps. Honestly I'd have to get some Xanax too--who knows how--and pass out on my feet.

So you started convulsing in a partial suspension. How much of your weight did you put into it? Were you "sitting" with your feet just dragging on the ground? I wanted to try this but, you know. It seemed like that woulda been it right there
Apoligizes for late reply: I was standing up and I let go of all my weight with a scarf (body is straight and leaning) so it doesnt hurt I also may stand on my tippy toes as my sweet spot is under my adams apple instead of recommended above and under chin. Also not to sound lazy but if you care I had messages in this thread a few days ago I explain what I have been doing, I have changed some stuff up since them but it is pretty much the same only I dont crouch now but tippy toe stand to pull ligature lower and more pressure on lower part of neck. Also do you know where your sweet spot is? sorry for dragging this.
 

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Apoligizes for late reply: I was standing up and I let go of all my weight with a scarf (body is straight and leaning) so it doesnt hurt I also may stand on my tippy toes as my sweet spot is under my adams apple instead of recommended above and under chin. Also not to sound lazy but if you care I had messages in this thread a few days ago I explain what I have been doing, I have changed some stuff up since them but it is pretty much the same only I dont crouch now but tippy toe stand to pull ligature lower and more pressure on lower part of neck. Also do you know where your sweet spot is? sorry for dragging this.
I think it's as high as possible. I feel my carotid close to the surface right under my jaw.
 

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I just thought this information is better off here now, because the original source has been taken down.
If this violates any rules or if the author doesn't want this information to be reproduced on other sites, the admins or mods are free to delete my thread. I hope you don't mind, this is very useful, and it's not my intention to steal Loe's content.
Source and credit: Loe



Guide to partially suspended hanging:

Warning: Don't try this method unless you're totally sure that:
a) you want to kill yourself
b) that you won't be found for at least 30 minutes after you attempt.

This method is very lethal and quick (quick from your perspective
anyway, as you black out within seconds), but if you're found in time
and 'saved' you can end up with serious brain damage and/or be left a
vegetable.

Why partial suspension?
Because full suspension seems to me to be unnecessary and creates
difficulties. First of all you need to find a place which would hold
your entire weight, which isn't easy, and also you need a stronger
ligature, which isn't always easy to find either. There's nothing
wrong with full suspension, but it may not be a viable method for
everyone, especially if you're looking to use everyday materials from
around the home.

By partial suspension I mean that you hang yourself around the neck
(specifically the carotid artery), and push downwards while kneeling.
This should create enough downward pressure on the ligature to tighten
it and close the carotid artery and stop the blood flow to your brain.
All you need is 3 kilograms of pressure to do this, which isn't much
at all.

Also, with full suspension your entire body weight is pressurizing
your neck, and this would probably be more than enough to not only cut
off the blood supply to your brain, but break your neck as well. I'm
not too sure if that's a good or a bad thing. I do know though, that
statistically people who've attempted via hanging have more often been
found kneeling and partially suspended than being fully suspended.

Where is the carotid artery?
Before you start you have to know this. If you place your hand around
the middle of your neck, around your Adam's apple, with one thumb on
one side and all fingers on the other, you should feel a strong pulse
and heartbeat. If you close your hand now fairly firmly, you'll
probably make yourself pass out. It might be a good idea to try this
to make sure you've got the right spot.

What type of ligature?
You need a ligature that's strong, but not too elastic. It doesn't
have to be very long, 1 meter or more would be plenty. I'd advise
against nylon rope, string, fishing wire, etc.
Neckties on the other hand, are perfect Smile .

It may also be a good idea to lubricate the ligature with soap. This
would help the noose tighten even quicker, especially if you're using
a rough ligature such as a rope. Lubricating it in this way will
increase the friction once you push your head down and tighten the
noose, and could make it a little more effective and faster.

What type of knot?
A slipknot. It's one of the most basic knots around, and you make it
with one end of your ligature. The other end should go around your
hanging place.

Many people have the misguided idea that a hangman's knot should be
used, but they're wrong. A hangman's knot is for a completely
different purpose, and won't work for this method.

Where should I hang?
You should hang from a support which will hold part of your weight.

You should test this by tying the loose end of your ligature around
the support several times, sticking your hand (NOT your head) in the
noose and pushing down with it. If the noose holds, you're fine. If
not, then you'll have to find another spot.

A great and easy place to hang is from the thick horizontal metal bar
which you find in wardrobes in most homes.

When should I do it?
When no one else will be in the same area, for at least 30 minutes.
You lose consciousness within seconds but your body doesn't completely
die for around 15-20 minutes. The extra 10-15 minutes is for
preparation time and just in case.

How?

When you're completely ready, kneel down, stick your head in the
noose, position it around the carotid artery and push downwards with
your head.

Good luck...
I guess you could use any of the last 3 then, unless you change mind for full of course; by the way can you feel fuzzy and warm/ tingles when pressing down? I personally couldnt do it with my hand I guess not enough weight. maybe if you cant you could try holding your heads weight down on a ligature safely. Edit: maybe it is weird to say safely at the end... lol I guess you would be practicing in private as well.
 
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So, i guess my "sweet spot" is on the same level with my Adam's apple. At least if i place noose there (knot forward) and lay down i can feel pressure build up faster than in any other position. Also sounds go out only in this position. I'm trying to imagine how'd i do it but don't have any ideas. If you have some please let me know.
 
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So, i guess my "sweet spot" is on the same level with my Adam's apple. At least if i place noose there (knot forward) and lay down i can feel pressure build up faster than in any other position. Also sounds go out only in this position. I'm trying to imagine how'd i do it but don't have any ideas. If you have some please let me know.
carefully read the description of the sweet spot. sounds or pressure is veins. you need to feel dizzy or out of balance (minimum)
 

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carefully read the description of the sweet spot. sounds or pressure is veins. you need to feel dizzy or out of balance (minimum)
That's why i'm not sure. I never felt dizzyness or something like that, and i've tried everything i can think of. At least i felt SOMETHING doing it this way. My guess is that if i'm able to press veins so i should be able to press arteries.
 
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That's why i'm not sure. I never felt dizzyness or something like that, and i've tried everything i can think of. At least i felt SOMETHING doing it this way. My guess is that if i'm able to press veins so i should be able to press arteries.
Maybe youve already tried, but if you feel something but not dizzy; maybe try to move it slightly in that area, try multiple.
 

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Maybe youve already tried, but if you feel something but not dizzy; maybe try to move it slightly in that area, try multiple.
Well, you understand, to describe the feeling of a "sweet place" is quite problematic, until you yourself feel or help you) can try lying on your stomach in our case somehow attach a rope to something?
yet people are individual, eh. we have no methods 100% ...
(won, I still wanted to try an overdose, but it turned out to be on a friend (he, too, with such thoughts) even the x20 dose did not work. I just slept through and felt bad the next week. now, when I read news about an overdose, I feel like a dirty trick) xD
 
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Well, you understand, to describe the feeling of a "sweet place" is quite problematic, until you yourself feel or help you) can try lying on your stomach in our case somehow attach a rope to something?
yet people are individual, eh. we have no methods 100% ...
(won, I still wanted to try an overdose, but it turned out to be on a friend (he, too, with such thoughts) even the x20 dose did not work. I just slept through and felt bad the next week. now, when I read news about an overdose, I feel like a dirty trick) xD
Yes, hard to give info on sweet spot; unfortunately: trial and error. Not feeling motivated as much either, failed attempts. Now I know what people meant when they said that...
 
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Ive been looking for good fixing points and they all look quite shitty in my apartment. How can I hang myself from a tree if I cant climb trees? I cant to save my life and carrying a huge chair under my arm through the whole city is kinda awkward lol
I know how to tie rope to a branch and everything
If I try my lamp it will break off, if I try my radiator it will break off, if I try closet bar it will bend etc
 

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Ive been looking for good fixing points and they all look quite shitty in my apartment. How can I hang myself from a tree if I cant climb trees? I cant to save my life and carrying a huge chair under my arm through the whole city is kinda awkward lol
I know how to tie rope to a branch and everything
If I try my lamp it will break off, if I try my radiator it will break off, if I try closet bar it will bend etc
Are you doing partial or full? Do you think you can put rope behind door and tie it to knob? and if so will it hold your weight? this works for me; only i am using scarf.
 
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For me it doesnt matter partial or full, Ive read info on both, I just want to be dead. Yeah I tried the door method but Im unsure it will work because my doorknob is very short and its hard to secure rope to it. I think I finally came up with a way to tie rope or scraf to it without it slipping but Im still paranoid it would give out when unconscious. And like I mentioned, all other fixing points will just break off if I try to hang myself off them.
 

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For me it doesnt matter partial or full, Ive read info on both, I just want to be dead. Yeah I tried the door method but Im unsure it will work because my doorknob is very short and its hard to secure rope to it. I think I finally came up with a way to tie rope or scraf to it without it slipping but Im still paranoid it would give out when unconscious. And like I mentioned, all other fixing points will just break off if I try to hang myself off them.
Hmmm... I wonder if making small knots may help secure rope from not slipping through door crack?
 
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Hi.
I do apologize if i sound completely stupid here but when using the partial hanging method - when you pass out and are not disturbed will u definately die ?
Do you think there could be any chance that u could just be out for a while but then come round ?
Thanks
 
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Hi.
I do apologize if i sound completely stupid here but when using the partial hanging method - when you pass out and are not disturbed will u definately die ?
Do you think there could be any chance that u could just be out for a while but then come round ?
Thanks
been paronoid myself about waking i believe @SomebodyBroken said at some point in this post he woke up somehow after 10 mins maybe I read wrong? I havent passed out yet i using door but wonder if i could stand in unconsioius...
 

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Well, considering that there are three days left and I have not achieved success, but I still try to partially hanging or night-night method...
even if all fails, then drowning is my only 100% option xX
(i realy hate my SI xD )
 
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Well, considering that there are three days left and I have not achieved success, but I still try to partially hanging or night-night method...
even if all fails, then drowning is my only 100% option xX
(i realy hate my SI xD )
I am going to have to try tourniquet probably because I cant hang from door now I have company again... dont know when ill try again but yeah..........
 
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My recommendation, which I can share through experience, is that you should not play around with the rope for longer than 15 minutes and while the neck is compressed by the rope, please do not swallow at all and avoid it.

I made the mistake on both points and the next evening I had a headache for a day. I almost couldn't sleep and it was very disturbing even in the next morning. I also had pain while swallowing for three days and still can't talk properly. Maybe I pinched my vocal chords a bit or something.
 

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I don’t have a date but I’ve been trying on and off for the last few months, the past few days I’ve felt more ready. I’ve struggle with SI too which sucks. I wish I ctb months ago. Tomorrow is my dads birthday so I know morally I should try and put it off but the longer I go on I think there’s never a right time so maybe I should be selfish. I wanted to go to a secluded place and try partial on a tree. But have recently decided it may be more comfortable doing it at home, over a door. I live alone so I would have plenty of time but I have a job now (to act ‘normal’) and my parents are back to visit in next week. I have everything I need, rope, alcohol, sleeping tablets, I just need to do it.
 
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I don’t have a date but I’ve been trying on and off for the last few months, the past few days I’ve felt more ready. I’ve struggle with SI too which sucks. I wish I ctb months ago. Tomorrow is my dads birthday so I know morally I should try and put it off but the longer I go on I think there’s never a right time so maybe I should be selfish. I wanted to go to a secluded place and try partial on a tree. But have recently decided it may be more comfortable doing it at home, over a door. I live alone so I would have plenty of time but I have a job now (to act ‘normal’) and my parents are back to visit in next week. I have everything I need, rope, alcohol, sleeping tablets, I just need to do it.
Good luck, yes SI are rather difficult to overcome... How close have you come with partial?
 

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I know it is! I’ve struggled to find the sweat spot for ages but I feel more confident I’ve found it now. I think I’ve only had two attempts were I felt I was going to pass out. I’ve had a couple of attempts where I’ve been too drunk or not drunk enough.
 
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I know this sounds morbid, but does anyone have any videos of people hanging themselves? I'm a visual learner and I think it would help me to see other peoples' attempts and set ups.
 
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Google footage of self hanging. I found a Russian guy and a 12 year old girls footage. Partial or full? There is video of partial on the hanging megathread too.
I know this sounds morbid, but does anyone have any videos of people hanging themselves? I'm a visual learner and I think it would help me to see other peoples' attempts and set ups.
 
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Is there a safe way to try partial hanging other than just a rope around your neck an pulling it with your hands?
I have got the tingly feeling on my face that way but would like to practice my setup safely so do I just try until I get the same feeling and then back out?
Also would it leave a noticeable mark on my neck even if I would use padding on the rope?
I need the safe way to try because I live with my parents and if I accidentally manage to CTB they would find my body instead of the police and I have some things left to do or do I wait until I have my things in order and just go for it and hope it works for me?
 

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Is there a safe way to try partial hanging other than just a rope around your neck an pulling it with your hands?
I have got the tingly feeling on my face that way but would like to practice my setup safely so do I just try until I get the same feeling and then back out?
Also would it leave a noticeable mark on my neck even if I would use padding on the rope?
I need the safe way to try because I live with my parents and if I accidentally manage to CTB they would find my body instead of the police and I have some things left to do or do I wait until I have my things in order and just go for it and hope it works for me?
an attempt to find a sweet spot with a T-shirt or something else leaves no trace. but this is the wrong approach, it is difficult to turn this with a rope ...
 

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Where do you guys plan on doing it? I’m pretty undecided between a tree in some near by woods I could go at night and not be found till at least the morning. (I’ve checked it out quite a few times). Or doing it at home.
 

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