[Discussion] How do I and my fellow subhuman KHHV incels cope with being considered ugly by practically every woman?

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Zaynaldeen

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I look absolutely subhuman and I can conclude that I will never be in a relationship, that I will never have kids and especially never have sex. I'm wondering whether there are other guys on this forum like me because I see lots of people talking about having sex before suicide as if they can have it whenever they want. I'm assuming all these people are either women or good-looking guys. The only people who told me I look above average are my mom and my only friend. But really, I know that I look like utter shit in every possible way. How can I cope with this? Should I just end it all by jumping off a Church or something, that's my method.
 
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Onomotopoeia

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Is this a troll?

I can't ever really be sure anymore.

I'm going to tell you a groundbreaking secret. Ugly women like to get laid also. That's it end of secret.

If your a 2 then no you probably wont land a 10 those are facts, but if you care about that then look in the mirror and decide why you are so shallow.

Yes, the whole world is shallow to a degree but sometimes all that just vanishes because life does not leave room for all of us to be shallow all the time.

No matter what you look like someone will sleep with you, someone will love you, someone will appreciate your company.

Edit: I'm not sure what a KHHV is but back away from forming an identity around the incel community. Hate breeds more hate and there are better people and groups to associate with.
 
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lululoo

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Get out of the incel mindset and give life a true chance before you CTB. That community is feeding you lies and then all you are seeing out in the world is those lies. Ugly people, fat people, weird people all get laid. It is harder for some than for others. Give non-model girls a chance. I'm sure you don't look subhuman.
 

Santiago

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I can't get in a relationship. Probably a combination of my looks and social skills.

I just accept it honestly. But I don't vibe with other people anyways.
 
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Zaynaldeen

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Get out of the incel mindset and give life a true chance before you CTB. That community is feeding you lies and then all you are seeing out in the world is those lies. Ugly people, fat people, weird people all get laid. It is harder for some than for others. Give non-model girls a chance. I'm sure you don't look subhuman.
They seem to be correct about literally everything as far as I can see. When I try to get out of it and I go outside and I look at couples I am reminded of the blackpill again. My personal experience with women has been horrendous too and it confirms the blackpill. Statistics confirm the blackpill. My online 'dating' experience confirms the blackpill because I get 0 matches in a month on dating apps and when I change my picture to a good-looking guy my matches increase infinitely that I match with almost every woman on these apps and sites.
There were a bunch of girls who called me once while they were in a group, I knew who they were. They mocked me on the phone. And now I am supposed to sit here and think 'muh empathetic gender'.
 

Santiago

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Also you are wrong. Yes being ugly and not having the desired social status will make it way harder for you to get a wife/girlfriend, but no looks are not the absolute only factor. I know very ugly guys who have accomplished nothing in life and are still married.

Your mindset definitely doesn't help whatsoever. Not sure if you give off the same vibe IRL (hopefully not), but if you do then I am not surprised you don't find anyone.


Edit: and of course dating apps are based on looks lmao. How can they even know your personality
 

Zaynaldeen

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Also you are wrong. Yes being ugly and not having the desired social status will make it way harder for you to get a wife/girlfriend, but no looks are not the absolute only factor. I know very ugly guys who have accomplished nothing in life and are still married.

Your mindset definitely doesn't help whatsoever. Not sure if you give off the same vibe IRL (hopefully not), but if you do then I am not surprised you don't find anyone.


Edit: and of course dating apps are based on looks lmao. How can they even know your personality
Of course I am not that autistic to disrespect 'm lady IRL. They'd shank me for sexual harassment. I act very normal in real life. Also I am not an ugly loner because I am an incel. I am an incel because I am an ugly loner.

Also there are things called cuckoldry and betabuxxing. They are settling down with ugly stable men after having taken miles of schlong. And they will cheat on him either way. And ugly guys who are married and who have accomplished nothing seems like a fantasy to me, I'm going to say that is larp. He might be wage slaving for her.
Looks are the main factor, then comes status and then money. Looks are the most important though.

Look at this shit: This guy goes on a dating show and literally every woman thinks he is ugly, it proves that women have the same tastes overall.
And I'll just post this pic for reference that personality does not matter at all and that women prefer good-looking mass murdering rapists convicts over a below-average looking guy who is a normal person.
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Santiago

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Sjonnie isn't attractive because he dresses like a teenage boy and doesn't walk around with confidence. You can tell. It's his vibe.

And his Den Haag accent doesn't make him popular either.

A lot of men need to properly learn how to take care of themselves.
 

Lost Soul

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Sjonnie isn't attractive because he dresses like a teenage boy and doesn't walk around with confidence. You can tell. It's his vibe.

And his Den Haag accent doesn't make him popular either.

A lot of men need to properly learn how to take care of themselves.
Lol. That's what every redpilled person says. All you need is confidence bro. Take a shower, get a new haircut, and buy some new clothes bro.
No clothes for your face.
 

Zaynaldeen

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Sjonnie isn't attractive because he dresses like a teenage boy and doesn't walk around with confidence. You can tell. It's his vibe.

And his Den Haag accent doesn't make him popular either.

A lot of men need to properly learn how to take care of themselves.
It's his face, stop denying it.
 
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Onomotopoeia

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No, I am not stupid enough to believe personality is a factor in attraction.
This alone basically tells the rest of your story. Looks are the first thing everything after that is personality
You must have literally never heard of hypergamy among women and hypogamy among men.
Hypergamy, hypogamy. No ugly guy would chase model girls.
Ok so people date "up and down" it's certainly a thing but im not sure how it's related. Also very false that an ugly guy would chase model girls happens all the time in fact your hyper/hypo makes that very point.

Literally my only requirement is that she isn't obese.
oh so you have requirements? my how shallow of you and then you go on about how "bad" requirements are look i'm not knocking what you like or do not like personally I never understood the bbw thing to me the fact is bigger girls are just not as attractive to me but that would not and has not stopped me from dating them. Still the fact remains you are setting requirements and then go on to well, this drivel below...


. Literally all women have to do is not be obese and even that they have an issue because they can't stop putting garbage in their mouth. Meranwhile women have multiple requirements lumped together such as: Must be 6'3" or taller, must be white, must make more than X$, must be lean, must be reliable, can't be a gamer, can't be a virgin, etc.
Meanwhile these women get their roast beef pumped and dumped by different guys on a weekly basis.
I almost did not respond after this because I figure you HAVE to be trolling me right now. However I know this incel community is a thing and I have nothing better to do so here we are ...

I notice you put women and not some women... you realize they are people and very different from one another? wait let me back up... you do realize they are people right? different guys on a weekly basis?

did you ask them? it's rhetorical i sure hope not. You cant make judgments on every woman based on a perception you adopted from your worldview. While we are on the topic should these women not have sex? For someone so angry women have not been with you seem to have real issues with women having sex in general.

Cope. Women and 8-10/10 guys live on easy mode. Incels sometimes literally have no requirements and that is still too much.
being attractive has perks I cannot argue that. Easy mode? being an attractive woman comes with a whole slew of downsides that as a man i'm not really qualified to answer but im sure someone else will.

The most obvious examples: Men harrasing them, stalking them, not looking beyond physical features and sometimes being fearful for their well being just on account of being a woman. It's not easy mode it's a different set of problems.

Look I am king of self-esteem issues and it's been longer than I would care to admit since i've been in a relationship. Still, if even an ounce of this hate comes off you in life (and it always does) then it's no wonder.

More than looks, more than status, more than anything people are attracted to subtle positivity. Guess what they are not attracted to? negativity and you seem to have more anger than can be healthy (hey so do I)

If you feed that anger though it only get's worse. Use the internet but stay off dating sites all the problems of dating are amplified by the left swipe culture it's not reality.

Maybe start by having some conversations with women online without any intent other than to talk and learn they are people. You need that lesson
 
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toolateforme

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The incel mindset is really holding you back. I'm sure there are qualities about you in the first place that might have led you to those communities, but those places won't help you. These communities teach you that you're inherently defective, as is society, and that's why it's impossible for you to find a woman. Attitude & perspectives have a lot more impact than people realize, and being surrounded by people with the same sentiments will only hold you back. Of course ultimately my words will mean nothing, it's up to you to either break out of the mindset or CTB.
 

Johnnythefox

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I am not stupid enough to believe personality is a factor in attraction.
That's were you're wrong pal, make a woman laugh and you're more than halfway there, I'm sure plenty of women would agree with me on that. They'd rather spend time with someone with a personality than someone who's as entertaining as a brick, regardless of looks.
 

toolateforme

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That's were you're wrong pal, make a woman laugh and you're more than halfway there, I'm sure plenty of women would agree with me on that. They'd rather spend time with someone with a personality than someone who's as entertaining as a brick, regardless of looks.
Exactly this. Looks die, personality doesn't (unless you get hooked on meth or something). Plus even if you are 'ugly' your face will be its own filter - filtering out all the shallow women that prefer looks over personality.
 

Lost Soul

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I think the reason why inceldom exists is because of the way our current society operates. There is something very obscure and evil behind the curtain.
It is also the sudden change from living in tribes to living in separate houses.
 
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Johnnythefox

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I think the reason why inceldom exists is because of the way our current society operates. There is something very obscure and evil behind the curtain.
It is also the sudden change from living in tribes to living in separate houses.
It's the internet that created it, and people believing that everyone else is having a great life based on some pics uploaded to some website. It's no surprise tbh when numerous websites promote looks as being the essential ingredient to a fulfilling life, add in the filters and apps to enhance that pic and hey presto you're a frikin celebrity.
 

Zaynaldeen

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If you don't see anything wrong with the way he is presenting himself then I assume we have found your problem.
The comments mention that his outfit is the best part of his presentation and the host says that his outfit is simple and good. It's not his outfit. It's mostly his face and a bit of the body.
It's the internet that created it, and people believing that everyone else is having a great life based on some pics uploaded to some website. It's no surprise tbh when numerous websites promote looks as being the essential ingredient to a fulfilling life, add in the filters and apps to enhance that pic and hey presto you're a frikin celebrity.
Dating sites such as Tinder are to blame for it. Female virginity has decreased while male virginity has skyrocketed. It is simple.
That's were you're wrong pal, make a woman laugh and you're more than halfway there, I'm sure plenty of women would agree with me on that. They'd rather spend time with someone with a personality than someone who's as entertaining as a brick, regardless of looks.
Yeah man just become a jester and women will love you. Lmao. Yeah I am sure the guy on the left slays more than the guy on the right because of his personality and comedy.
Exactly this. Looks die, personality doesn't (unless you get hooked on meth or something). Plus even if you are 'ugly' your face will be its own filter - filtering out all the shallow women that prefer looks over personality.
All women prefer looks over personality, those who say they don't are virtue signalling. Actions speak louder than words anyway.
 

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Lost Soul

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Exactly this. Looks die, personality doesn't (unless you get hooked on meth or something). Plus even if you are 'ugly' your face will be its own filter - filtering out all the shallow women that prefer looks over personality.
This is just cope. You can take the black pill and discover the truth, or you can stay in wonderland and cope.
 
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Zaynaldeen

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This alone basically tells the rest of your story. Looks are the first thing everything after that is personality

Ok so people date "up and down" it's certainly a thing but im not sure how it's related. Also very false that an ugly guy would chase model girls happens all the time in fact your hyper/hypo makes that very point.



oh so you have requirements? my how shallow of you and then you go on about how "bad" requirements are look i'm not knocking what you like or do not like personally I never understood the bbw thing to me the fact is bigger girls are just not as attractive to me but that would not and has not stopped me from dating them. Still the fact remains you are setting requirements and then go on to well, this drivel below...




I almost did not respond after this because I figure you HAVE to be trolling me right now. However I know this incel community is a thing and I have nothing better to do so here we are ...

I notice you put women and not some women... you realize they are people and very different from one another? wait let me back up... you do realize they are people right? different guys on a weekly basis?

did you ask them? it's rhetorical i sure hope not. You cant make judgments on every woman based on a perception you adopted from your worldview. While we are on the topic should these women not have sex? For someone so angry women have not been with you seem to have real issues with women having sex in general.



being attractive has perks I cannot argue that. Easy mode? being an attractive woman comes with a whole slew of downsides that as a man i'm not really qualified to answer but im sure someone else will.

The most obvious examples: Men harrasing them, stalking them, not looking beyond physical features and sometimes being fearful for their well being just on account of being a woman. It's not easy mode it's a different set of problems.

Look I am king of self-esteem issues and it's been longer than I would care to admit since i've been in a relationship. Still, if even an ounce of this hate comes off you in life (and it always does) then it's no wonder.

More than looks, more than status, more than anything people are attracted to subtle positivity. Guess what they are not attracted to? negativity and you seem to have more anger than can be healthy (hey so do I)

If you feed that anger though it only get's worse. Use the internet but stay off dating sites all the problems of dating are amplified by the left swipe culture it's not reality.

Maybe start by having some conversations with women online without any intent other than to talk and learn they are people. You need that lesson
Yes up and down, many statistics prove this. Such as female vs male celibacy rates. The incel community in of itself. OKCupid statistics.

How are you such a simp to think it is okay for women to rule out the majority for genetic characteristics while I am shallow for not wanting a landwhale? How can a healthy guy who goes to the gym, does parkour, martial arts and eats really healthy supposed to live with a landwhale who is 300 lbs and eats everything in her path? That would not even work.

Women can screech sexual harassment and white knights will save 'm lady from the guy. Women don't have any issues with being catcalled in of itself, but being catcalled by ugly guys. They have everything handed to them, look at female streamers on twitch simps who give these women money for flashing their boobs while playing games on easy difficulty.

I have lots of anger, which I bring out during exercise. Not in an environment with women. And I do not have to ask people with how many people they have had sex because science and statistics already give me a hint.
 
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Zaynaldeen

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I think you've been spending too much time on Looksmax or that other incel website instead of being out in the real world.
Great assumption. I go outside a lot, but by myself. I either drive around. Or I do parkour or go to the gym.
what keeps people from coping with the truth?
Women don't give a shit about personality. Basically every serial killer has gotten love letters. The only thing they like in a man is dominance and that explains why serials killers are loved by women.
 

KadathianStr1d3r

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Im ugly or so I think I am to which the people around me tell me im not. I get called that horrid name "incel" alot but I cant help it if I have been diganosed with a personality disorder and some mild autism. I know there a lot wrong with me and i know that "Western"digital age society really doesnt gives a fuck about my well being to which I say screw the standard expectations of needing to bang some meat in order to be seen as "normal". Why the f should i go out and go waste my fragile social skills in trying to get something ill never obvisouly never f'ing get?! I'd much rather prefer to make new friends and explore the world as much as possible before I slit my wrists or put a 9mm in my head! I want to die before im 30 and I sure as heck want to get that genuine human experience so that way I can truly tell "Western" society to Sod off by dying a real human ((bean)).
But seriously if you want to ctb because of this then by all means I respect your descision, it was a pleasure!
 
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Kyrok

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If you can carry on an interesting conversation and not seem creepy, you can get laid. Do not give off vibe you're just talking her up to get laid. If she's even a bit attractive, seem like you're not interested. If she's unattractive, she'll probably be needy. Compliment but stay aloof. It isnt rocket science. And, I'm maybe a 4 out of 10... skinny nerd with bad teeth.
 

LastFlowers

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This thread is so insulting to women, it’s unbelievable.

The way the op talks about and obviously abhors women means he doesn’t deserve one.

Op, you make my skin crawl.

I think this thread should be banned.
Yea, I completely understand how being unnattractive affects someone’s life and even to the point where suicide is the only thing left on the table... but to put it on the opposite sex..and in such a demeaning way is not right.
I look absolutely subhuman and I can conclude that I will never be in a relationship, that I will never have kids and especially never have sex. I'm wondering whether there are other guys on this forum like me because I see lots of people talking about having sex before suicide as if they can have it whenever they want. I'm assuming all these people are either women or good-looking guys. The only people who told me I look above average are my mom and my only friend. But really, I know that I look like utter shit in every possible way. How can I cope with this? Should I just end it all by jumping off a Church or something, that's my method.
Do you want to CTB because of your looks or because you can’t get into a relationship with your looks?
I understand the former as that is basically my reason. But I feel like the latter is not impossible..
Would you be okay if you could have a relationship even while looking the way you do?
Do they have to be attractive?

Personally, I don’t even bother with relationships because of the way I look and feel.
I know none of that can make me happy. I have to be happy with myself and my desire for my looks to match who I am before anything else.
For me, I would be relieved just to be beautiful in my way, and to live for myself and the family I grew up with.
But that’s just me.


Im reading more of the thread now..
Why must you feel the need to call women landwhales?
If you know the struggle of not looking the way you want to, why can’t you recognize that same struggle in other people, including women.
You are throwing hurt at the wrong people when it comes to insults like these.
 
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