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goodbye thread - today 10:00 pm (UTC +2)

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There are various levels of sedation from: sedate (sleepy, feel pain consciously, body has physiologic reactions to pain (e.g. cortisol release, increased HR, BP, and respiration), sleep (EEG changes, sleep, physiologic responses to pain, no conscious perception of pain but CAN be aroused to wakefulness), coma (deeper EEG changes, physiologic response to pain, no conscious perception of pain, CANNOT be aroused), anesthesia (no conscious or physiologic reaction to pain, cannot be aroused).

different agents have different maximal levels of sedation. Benzos can get to the sleep/hypnotic stage but not deeper
 
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Conscious sedation (vs deep sedation).. is a neat one. There you can clearly see the different levels of sedation and consciousness.

When someone is not moving but is crying in pain during a procedure vs someone who has a smile on his or her face while you are busy reducing their fractures...
 
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There are various levels of sedation from: sedate (sleepy, feel pain consciously, body has physiologic reactions to pain (e.g. cortisol release, increased HR, BP, and respiration), sleep (EEG changes, sleep, physiologic responses to pain, no conscious perception of pain but CAN be aroused to wakefulness), coma (deeper EEG changes, physiologic response to pain, no conscious perception of pain, CANNOT be aroused), anesthesia (no conscious or physiologic reaction to pain, cannot be aroused).

different agents have different maximal levels of sedation. Benzos can get to the sleep/hypnotic stage but not deeper
So just to clarify, the inert gas method takes you from consciousness straight to anesthesia to death in a few minutes, yes?
 
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It’s been a whole week since you got your wish come true, Dani. I know you didn’t believe in afterlife, but I still hope there’s something beyond, a place, where you can finally be happy. I really miss you. :heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::aw:;-;
Don't worry im 99% sure hes fine
 
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So sad my friend @LetzteAusfahrt time has flown by since we started talking months ago, sorry you can't carry on any longer, your a brave man you wanted to feel the full effect from the SN experience, sorry I cannot be an observer I have a room full of people and I have a new 17.3 inch screen and everyone keeps checking what I am surfing I don't think my young nieces will be impressed if I live stream your attempt, if I go into another room the signal breaks down.

If you want to wait to get N nobody will think any lesser of you and it will be a more peaceful exit, I will miss speaking and reading your posts it's a real shame your leaving but we are all here for different reasons and unfortunately CTB is the main one.

I wish you a peaceful and safe journey my friend.

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Hey! A familiar “face”. It’s been awhile
I'm watching you right now and you're barely breathing. Your contributions were amazing and I realized you're an incredible guy.
It's been a pleasure to meet you although we never really talked.
Hope you find peace!
Goodbye, pal.
Is there a link?
I have not been active in awhile and I feel I missed such a kindred spirit.
Is there anyway to the link?
 
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22:45 SN ingested
22:49 started a last smoke
22:50 starting to feel nauseaus
22:50 dizziness is setting in
22:51 puked a little into a plastic bag
22:52 fell over, no longer responsive to sound
22:53 tried to say something, body is convulsing
22:54 unconcious, shallow breathing
22:55 more convulsing, breathing is getting harder
I have been reading this thread. The bit I am interested in is when it gets to 22:52 and he falls over, can you still feel things or are you unconscious?

If you can't feel anything, it looks like it's only a couple of minutes of nausea and being light headed. If you can feel things after 22:52, that could be 10-20 minutes of pain and suffocation.
 
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He is in a sort of intake room enjoying a beer with an old friend. They also have snacks. He is quite pleased about it all.
He has no more depression or pain or sadness. He has his usual body, shows me his arm and pinches it to show it's just like his regular earthly body. He sits on a grey couch with his friend very close. He says to tell everyone hi and he is doing very well and quite happy. His friend wears a red shirt, smiles at me and him and is delighted to see him and will guide him through everything.
(sorry I don't know what this all means but it was a sort of vision that came to me. It was quite vivid.)
This both broke my heart and provided comfort. Although I don’t really believe in an afterlife, the thought of possibly getting to see my grandma again someday makes me feel like my heart is going to explode. She’s been gone ten years and I still listen to her recorded voicemail on my phone and write her notes when it becomes a bit too unbearable. I wish I could hug her or hear her say my name just one more time.

Thank you for sharing.:heart:
 
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I feel badly that I missed this. I don't recall having spoken with him at any point but I thought highly of him. I appreciated his point of view and could relate to that philosophical nature. Peace to him.
And to the observers, please do as others advised and take all time necessary to tend to your own wellbeing in processing this.
 
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Sodium nitrite blocks the air in your brain and heart so no shit he was struggling with breathing. hello?????????
Not the air, the oxygen. His body was oxygen starved. He was still breathing. The loud noise is grunting because upon falling unconscious the person loses control of their body and the tongue may block the throat. Swallowing of the tongue is possible. The grunting sound is similar to a loud snoring sound where the airway is blocked.

Also, the position of his body is an issue. For those who were on the live stream you know what I’ll referring to.
 
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Not the air, the oxygen. His body was oxygen starved. He was still breathing. The loud noise is grunting because upon falling unconscious the person loses control of their body and the tongue may block the throat. Swallowing of the tongue is possible. The grunting sound is similar to a loud snoring sound where the airway is blocked.

Also, the position of his body is an issue. For those who were on the live stream you know what I’ll referring to.
What time did he go unconscious, in your opinion? Was it at 22:52? And after that point, would he have felt nothing?
 
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Also, the position of his body is an issue. For those who were on the live stream you know what I’ll referring to.
Was he lying on his back? Since you mentioned the tongue blocking the airway, I just wondered. I had seen something saying it's best to lie on the side in case you vomit.
 
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Was he lying on his back? Since you mentioned the tongue blocking the airway, I just wondered. I had seen something saying it's best to lie on the side in case you vomit.
He was not on his back. For vomit yes but as a first aider myself, I know the first thing we must do is check if the airway is being obstructed by the tongue before administering artificial respiration.
 
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He became unconscious the moment he fell over (falling over is due to being unconscious). As for what he felt, probably gradual numbness.
Thanks. Sorry for the stupid questions. I don't know what someone feels after they go unconscious and if they still talk.
 
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Omg guys leave him to his peace, he is already gone
OP would have liked for us to learn from and share about his CTB. Contributing to the community and feeling like he helped us was important to him. I don’t think he would be upset that people are discussing his last moments, and he would prefer that to us being sad. He was an awesome dude, and a logical thinker.
 

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