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Does N go bad?

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PainfulGut

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I'm looking for a 'back-up' method, on my mind are SN and Inert gas but I have not considered N. Does it go bad?
 
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Well, IMHO....To consider N or Pntbsodium as a backup method is striking
However I could to translate backup on a wrong way.
 
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Check in the PPH :

Try searching :
The Shelf Life of Liquid Nembutal
and
Storage & Shelf Life of the Barbiturates
 
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About liquid N

Test results (mid 2018), after exactly 3 years post expiry date (verified from original packaging, not word of mouth - only 6 months were left on arrival)
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That’s above the production level of 63mg/ml, still plausible without accusing the lab (10% margin error?)

It tends to indicate no (or minimal) degradation of purity content early on, similar than evaluated here (-0.5%/yr)

Then, you’re left to fight cognitive dissonance.....
 
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In about 3 weeks, will post new test results from EC lab of Pisabental, close to 5 years expired after due date (september 2015) ...for my own culture through fact based evidence, instead of unverified through guru claims. So I can be thankful to rely on this info in a long-term future. It will be the last time I test this batch before ditching it.
 
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In about 3 weeks, will post new test results from EC lab of Pisabental, close to 5 years expired after due date (september 2015) ...for my own culture through fact based evidence, instead of unverified through guru claims. So I can be thankful to rely on this info in a long-term future. It will be the last time I test this batch before ditching it.
I’m backing off. Reason : now planning to die from old age. If I don’t, then made up my mind I would go for Pegasos (I may even qualify now based on the recognition of my health condition the next year).
1) Now I value intravenous a degree further, after I tasted the vet liquid ...and I got Pisabental: Dolethal may be even worse to get down !
2) it’s so much better to be legally surrounded by friends & family instead of doing it secretly and shameful
3) if I order again and again Dolethal at $750 every 3-5 years for 2 decades, it will equal the price to half of Pegasos...
4) it’s a lot of legal risk and stressful hassle to reorder that often, due to a short expiry date

So, I won’t test my N but just get rid of it. And won’t purchase any new one in the futur. Will consider swiss orgs only ...in the long term.

If someone is interested for the knowledge to get the factual confirmation about the purity after 5 years have passed, feel free to PM me and we can arrange the testing with EC lab. I have 2 x 2ml sampled in tubes ready to ship and I live next to the lab so in a week it could return results.

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Time to move on.
 
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So, I got rid of my N but kept 2 tube vials valid for testing at different intervals. If I won’t allocate my funds otherwise, in the end, I will test with EC lab in october, approximately 5 years after expiration post the official date.
And I’m thinking to keep the 2nd sample to test at the 10 years’ mark. Should be interesting...
 
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I read it can go bad over time starting at around six months to a year. Especially being exposed to air can do it.
 
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So, I got rid of my N but kept 2 tube vials valid for testing at different intervals. If I won’t allocate my funds otherwise, in the end, I will test with EC lab in october, approximately 5 years after expiration post the official date.
And I’m thinking to keep the 2nd sample to test at the 10 years’ mark. Should be interesting...
Did you just throw it away??? You can buy a kit off exit international to test presence and purity. I did watch a video on it.
 
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I’m backing off. Reason : now planning to die from old age. If I don’t, then made up my mind I would go for Pegasos (I may even qualify now based on the recognition of my health condition the next year).
1) Now I value intravenous a degree further, after I tasted the vet liquid ...and I got Pisabental: Dolethal may be even worse to get down !
2) it’s so much better to be legally surrounded by friends & family instead of doing it secretly and shameful
3) if I order again and again Dolethal at $750 every 3-5 years for 2 decades, it will equal the price to half of Pegasos...
4) it’s a lot of legal risk and stressful hassle to reorder that often, due to a short expiry date

So, I won’t test my N but just get rid of it. And won’t purchase any new one in the futur. Will consider swiss orgs only ...in the long term.

If someone is interested for the knowledge to get the factual confirmation about the purity after 5 years have passed, feel free to PM me and we can arrange the testing with EC lab. I have 2 x 2ml sampled in tubes ready to ship and I live next to the lab so in a week it could return results.

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Time to move on.
Please contact me ASAP thank you
 
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I read it can go bad over time starting at around six months to a year. Especially being exposed to air can do it.
being exposed to air / unsealed, the recommendation of Exit International is to discard it after 1 month. The same deadline is confirmed within the french notice of Dolethal
otherwise, Pisabental could last up to 20 years and still kill, according to Exit who witnessed such cases. A study confirms a degradation of potency of only -0.5% / year
NB: the notice of Dolethal indicates a shelf-life of 5 years. Opposed to Pisabental, Dolethal is non-sterile
 
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being exposed to air / unsealed, the recommendation of Exit International is to discard it after 1 month. The same deadline is confirmed within the french notice of Dolethal
otherwise, Pisabental could last up to 20 years and still kill, according to Exit who witnessed such cases. A study confirms a degradation of potency of only -0.5% / year
NB: the notice of Dolethal indicates a shelf-life of 5 years. Opposed to Pisabental, Dolethal is non-sterile
Why did you throw out your bottles?
 
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I don’t plan to CTB anymore. Check my recovery thread
 

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