DeBreather purchase, too good to be true?

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I went back to the R2D website, it has more information now than it did before. Maybe it said this in particular before, and maybe it's been stated on this thread, but the cause of death is hypoxia. I've gotten confused about mentions of nitrogen, but I get the impression this method is not like using nitrogen gas, so I wanted to clear that up, I don't want to spread disinformation.

I'd recommend to anyone who is concerned to research hypoxic brain injury. The first link in the quoted text was relevant.

It's also important to note that hypoxic brain injuries can lead to seizure, coma, or death. Of course the goal for us is death, but I'm thinking it might be beneficial to take diazepam before doing this method.

If one survives a hypoxic brain injury, the prognosis is not good. Not trying to cause fear, trying to make an informed decision and help others do the same. Definitely suggest doing your research. There's lot of information out there about this type of brain injury.
Don't you die from hypoxia while using SN? And we all know any damage caused from using SN is reversible. So what's the difference?
 
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Don't you die from hypoxia while using SN? And we all know any damage caused from using SN is reversible. So what's the difference?
There are different forms of hypoxia ..
 
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Don't you die from hypoxia while using SN? And we all know any damage caused from using SN is reversible. So what's the difference?
I don't want to derail the thread but I don't think that any damage from failed SN is ALWAYS reversible. But a failed attempt with the Rebreather would be worse because it would be brain damage. That's indeed scaring. But if the fitting is good I don't see what problem could be.
 
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I don't want to derail the thread but I don't think that any damage from failed SN is ALWAYS reversible. But a failed attempt with the Rebreather would be worse because it would be brain damage. That's indeed scaring. But if the fitting is good I don't see what problem could be.
I plan on applying extra tape around my face to secure the mask (if I think its potentially not secure) but I really dont see it coming off. Perhaps some sort of thin, supportive balaclava could also be designed and implemented for extra support. Combine that with diazepam and do you have any other safeguards that should be implemented? I mentioned this before and was told it wasn't necessary, but I would like to replace diazepam with N and use that with the debreather. I figure thats as close to 100% reliable as you are likely to get.
 
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Customs might be a buroacratic problem. My Rebreather is stuck at customs (Spain). They want from me: 1/ National Ideintification validated by the tax agency (this can delay things if your national identification is still not validated by them because you renewed it), 2/ Invoice with some data from buyer and seller (I'm afraid they will be rejecting mine), 3/ Charge in your bank account (this is not a problem), 4/ Some declaration (I don't know if this is a problem, they ask if you're buying a sanitary product).

If at customs they open my unit, they'll runi it, I don't know how to substitue the soda lime granules.
Surprised. It is a huge list of items. you’ll have to think twice if ordering N. Points 2 & 3 (not if WU but crypto) would be problematic. You’d have to fake documents or give up
 
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Surprised. It is a huge list of items. you’ll have to think twice if ordering N. Points 2 & 3 (not if WU but crypto) would be problematic. You’d have to fake documents or give up
I think the problem is that the god costs more than 150 euros, I suppose A wouldn't declare that value, the problem would be that N is liquid and maybe atracts more attention.
I plan on applying extra tape around my face to secure the mask (if I think its potentially not secure) but I really dont see it coming off. Perhaps some sort of thin, supportive balaclava could also be designed and implemented for extra support. Combine that with diazepam and do you have any other safeguards that should be implemented? I mentioned this before and was told it wasn't necessary, but I would like to replace diazepam with N and use that with the debreather. I figure thats as close to 100% reliable as you are likely to get.
N is the gold standard, if you have N why do you want to use the Rebreather?
 
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Oh well. Didn't know that.
The 4-5 different types


@GoodPersonEffed, you’re correct about hallucinations, I’ve seen it occasionally mentioned for hypoxic hypoxia. However, all I’ve seen are persons whose willpower/reactions seem annihilated and apathic, so they may be experienced passively?

Anecdotically, it is sometimes argued that NDEs could be a byproduct of ischemic hypoxia.
 
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I just wanted everyone to know that when one goes to the Respiro website and hits the “add to cart” button, you’re led to a window that has a narrative saying that the unit is being re-tooled to some degree, and won’t be available until June. This is different than the R2D window. Check it out. Just sayin.
When i went to the respiro website to order it says not secure -respiron.urdemowebsite .com .
then when i click to buy it takes you to a bit that says rocket express with a rocket pic on it .you put all your details into to form to pay is this site ok ?doesnt say anything else .wary about filling it in ,but didnt give me a message saying being re-tooled ?
 
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When i went to the respiro website to order it says not secure -respiron.urdemowebsite .com .
then when i click to buy it takes you to a bit that says rocket express with a rocket pic on it .you put all your details into to form to pay is this site ok ?doesnt say anything else .wary about filling it in ,but didnt give me a message saying being re-tooled ?
If you go to the Respiro site, when you click in add to chart, there says that there won't be new batch of units until June.
 
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Navigating through more info as we speak together

Looks like good news. The risk to develop hallucinations could be really low
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However, this is less so: bad confirmation. Although not newer/different than the link about recovery of @GPE
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lmroch

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We need EI info. I'm 39. Imroch, your provided us with valuable info, but you should have posted here with a different name from EI forum. It's normal they don't want to be associated with a no-medic suicide forum they don't lead.
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Guess what this is called? All for being helpful, part of the team.. being criticized one more time. Over n Out! :shy:


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Guess what this is called? All for being helpful, part of the team.. being criticized one more time. Over n Out! :shy:


You already admitted in a recent comment above that you made an error in judgment by using the same member name. I hope you won't take on the non-constructive criticism you got from one person. I almost spoke up about it when I read it, but I waited to see how you would handle it for yourself, to give you that opportunity. I like what you posted here, that you confronted it. But I hope you'll stand firm and remain here if being here serves you. You did not do harm to this forum, and you couldn't possibly foresee that using the same name would have undesired effects. That's my opinion, anyway.
 
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Unfortunately, even if Imroch hadn't used the same username, there would still be ways of identifying him/her. The time the question was asked in addition to relaying it to the forum. At the very least it would've been an educated guess that would have lead to their account closure on the Exit forum. There is no actual way of preventing this. Their policies on the forum allow them to terminate accounts at-will.
 
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lmroch

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It was not the same user name.. I believe we are being watched, not me, but we, and now me. SS is where the discovery is happening. Look at what was posted, moments after I got the email, spoilers. Unless it was removed, I spoke to Mod haaa about creating a new me, but decided to stay here as me.

Once I posed there, they were watching of course.. don't cha really think! Check out the spoilers, I was done. Crazy thing, it was about the mask, as if we didn't know, had been discussing it for pages, and continue to.

What my comment was about is.. I was a target there.. And *I feel* targeted here by that comment. I'm a fuckin little 70 year old lady, I don't need to be told what to do, how I should do it, where I should do it, if i made a mistake, I surely know that. I put a target on my back. And here we are, eating each other up! I have had trauma all my life, I don't need it here.. And I continuing to beat myself up over this.. I used to think I never self-abused.. Wrong!

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I'm not giving you any flack. In fact, I applaud you for asking these questions, relaying a response to us, and taking the risks associated with it. Not many, if any, would have done what you did. While I shouldn't apologize on the actions of other forum members criticizing you, in this case I will.
 
Notabadguy

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Guess what this is called? All for being helpful, part of the team.. being criticized one more time. Over n Out! :shy:


Imroch, as you know, because we talked by PM, I'm very sorry you feel that way, but I didn't shoot anybody, I didn't ban anybody, I just spoke my mind, you posted before related to it, I'm 39, EI forum info is extremely valuable and I'm extremely grateful to you.. I can't ask you for forgiveness because I don't feel I did something wrong, just replied to your post complaining about your EI forum ban.
You already admitted in a recent comment above that you made an error in judgment by using the same member name. I hope you won't take on the non-constructive criticism you got from one person. I almost spoke up about it when I read it, but I waited to see how you would handle it for yourself, to give you that opportunity. I like what you posted here, that you confronted it. But I hope you'll stand firm and remain here if being here serves you. You did not do harm to this forum, and you couldn't possibly foresee that using the same name would have undesired effects. That's my opinion, anyway.
I'm sorry you feel that way too. I wasn't critizacing, just speaking my mind about a possible cause for the ban, why is that non-constructive? I'm wary about this method, due to potential leaking problems, if the problem was, I don't know, posting with the same name, why can't I speak my mind? If we're here at SS, we all are in a bad place in our lives, people are hurting, I'm sorry if it crossed the wrong way, but I was not being disrespectful.
 
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I'm sorry you feel that way too. I wasn't critizacing, just speaking my mind about a possible cause for the ban, why is that non-constructive. I'm wary about this method, due to potential leaking problems, if the problem was, I don't know, posting with the same name, why can't I speak my mind?
Because she had already posted that she made a mistake by doing that, so following up by telling her what she "should" have done when she already admitted she was in error sounds like shaming. I can understand why she felt targeted by you with that comment.
 
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Because she had already posted that she made a mistake by doing that, so following up by telling her what she "should" have done when she already admitted she was in error sounds like shaming. I can understand why she felt targeted by you with that comment.
It was not my intention to shame anybody, I'll be more cautious.
 
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Thinking about the bags (my Rebreather is in customs), as you can see, there is an outer plastic bag (supposedely it's this one wich is not supposed to be open), and another plastic bag inside. Do you think could be enough not opening the inside bag (I don't even if it's tight closed)?
 

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@Notabadguy, can you ask Richard that?
 
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@Notabadguy, can you ask Richard that?
Not yet, since there is nothing he can do about it. Besides, following the right2die site instructions it is clear that they refer to the outer plastic bag, but since I'm afraid customs might open it, I wonder if it might be enough not opening the inside plastic bag, in case this one was also airtight sealed.
 
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Not yet, since there is nothing he can do about it.
I'm confused by this response. You asked the opinion of the forum, but Richard would be the one who could provide the answer.
 
GerMann

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Dont be to much afraid of customs, it can safe live if it would been used with O2-Gas-bottle. There is nothing illegal on it. You have to to pay import tax, thats all.
For example: The German duty has fished my SN delivery, the officer was suspected me, but he cant refuseing the import of it.