Capitalism is the source of our ills; it must be destroyed!

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Pan

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This is why I embrace Nepalese Maoism. I can think of n better way than to fighting. I am not bullshitting; I have the $$$ and the time. Let me do my part in life liberating at least one nation from the oppression of capitalism. I have been to Nepal, and have been sympathetic to their struggle. Let me die with gun in hand, dare to struggle; dare to win!
 
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Pan

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Capitalism is at the root of our problems, and encourages separating wheat from the chaff. Maoism tells us that if we struggle, we will win. There is no other way. Recognize your enemy! It is the capitalist system. Big pharma is just the tipof the iceberg; you are being snookered, simply put. Don’t buy into the system; they want $$$ from your crises—-nothing more. I am off to Nepal, to join their struggle; let me die, if need be, but let me know my death has meant no. MAO MORE THAN EVER.
 
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Humanity could have chosen to care about each other and build an amazing world. But instead we decided to build power structures and enact violence against people who we see as different. Been happening for 10,000+ years and still divided and overpowered as ever. Cant wait to get out.
 
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Hey right on. I have a lot of admiration for people who've gone from the U.S. to join Kurdish liberation struggles. Hear about that guy Will Van Spronsen's attack on the imperialist migrant detention centers a while ago? Anarchist Black Cross does important work supporting political prisoners inside the imperial core too... Suicide has existed in many, many economic systems but this definitely isn't helping. It's important not to throw ourselves into roles in struggles that directly-impacted communities haven't invited us into, but if you have the contacts and the agreement with people there, more power to you.
 
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Pan

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Capitalism is at the root of all social/economic problems. Mao, unlike Marx and Lenin, conceived of a society without a center. It is right to rebel, he exclaimed. In that sense, he was closer to anarchy rather than a centrist socialist system. They need people who are willing to fight -and die - in Kathmandu, Nepal. I am ready.b
Let’s face it, Cleo. We’re it not for th
Hey right on. I have a lot of admiration for people who've gone from the U.S. to join Kurdish liberation struggles. Hear about that guy Will Van Spronsen's attack on the imperialist migrant detention centers a while ago? Anarchist Black Cross does important work supporting political prisoners inside the imperial core too... Suicide has existed in many, many economic systems but this definitely isn't helping. It's important not to throw ourselves into roles in struggles that directly-impacted communities haven't invited us into, but if you have the contacts and the agreement with people there, more power to you.
i have two friends-two women, actually- who are active in the Nepalese Maoist Liberation Movement. If you at all curious, please look up Nepalese Maoism on internet. There you will find pictures/descriptions of fighters, ideology, photos, etc
nNepal needs people like myself, like yourself, to dedicate your lives to Maoism. That means taking up the gun and joining the Nepalese people In throwing off the yoke of capitalism. Think about it —-if you must ctb, what worthier cause is there?
All human suffering, whether directly or indirectly, can be attributed to capitalism. Were this society more just, more equitable, I am convinced that ctb-related problems would be lessened considerably. NO ONE SHOULD BE HOMELESS; NO ONE SHOULD BE STARVING. The u.s.s.a. is the richest country on earth; after all, its leaders are fond of continuously crowing about it, right? Crowing is all they do. To be homeless, hungry, mentally ill is completely unacceptable. Completely unacceptable. After all, I keep hearing the same platitudes about the land of the free and the home of the brave. Apply it !
 
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Yeah, I've looked at all that a lot, I'm not totally sure that's a non-strawman reading of Marx as far as the 'center' bit goes, dude did make quite a big deal abt voluntary free association, too bad a lot of people wind up reading Marx thru the lense of Lenin or social-democrats and think they're opposing him on the grounds of arguments he never made... But that's rather an aside. Also not sure who you're addressing by that name you used, assuming it's not me? I trace a lot of historical issues back to a lot earlier than the rise of capital, but also I get that there are different ways people can use the word "root." I'm glad you're connected to people you trust and find alliance with in the belly of this beast.
 
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My spiritual teacher stated that there will be a monumental wipeout on such a major scale that it will literally transform the human psyche in a deep way. This will eventually allow a new consciousness on this earth....

To read about it :
http://www.barrylong.org/statements/end.shtml

(runs over several pages..... hit "Continues" links at end of each page)
Sounds perfect! Cant wait really, if i survive and live in that idyllic reality - great! If im just wiped out by some cataclysm - well thats not bad either!:)
 
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It’s not capitalism that does this. We have not had free market capitalism in many decades. Free market capitalism is where there is no government involvement in the market economy. What we have in the US is fascism, communism, and socialism. Pretty much all the same. Most other places are not free market either because of central government and central banking. The ruling class graduallly takes away freedom so slowly that u don’t realize u had been living under socialism which means slavery this whole time.
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I disagree.

I think it's more about consumerism & corruption than capitalism , which is just a basic right to own property ; right protected by the state and arbitrated by fair and just courts. (clearly that does not happen so what we see in the world is not capitalism).

Suicide is older than capitalism and exists in places that are not capitalist.

Capitalism does not mean laissez faire. The correlation of capitalism with deregulation, privatisation, tax havens, materialism, individualism, etc was done in the late 70s -- these are not synonyms, integral parts, inevitable results of basic capitalism. I'm not "defending capitalism" but the truth: people on both sides are lying. "Capitalism" is used as a slogan both by proponents and opponents -- and it had long lost its original meaning. It's another type of 1984.

"Night is day, up is down, black is white" .. and capitalism is X
The Road to Serfdom (1944, Hayek), a shining example of neo-liberal paradigm, speaks of protecting the environment and workers rights as essential. I'm not endorsing that school of thought nor recommending the book. I'm saying: educate thyself.
 
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Capitalism is just a symptom of a much more pernicious problem: human nature.
Human nature is just fine as long as u don’t have rulers who corrupt the nature of man by creating perverse incentives. Believe it or not if everyone is held accountable and is forced to be morally responsible things in society would dramatically improve without a government. Government tends to make us uncivilized because it divides people instead of uniting us to solve problems. I always thought it was funny when u see the words United States of America because nothing could be further from the truth lol! We are pitted against each other at every turn by design of the ruling class to keep us more vulnerable and dependent on the state. Also to keep us from assembling and organizing against the government.
 
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There are a lot of known suicides through history, long before capitalism and I wouldn't be surprised is some of the early hominids commited suicide.

We are cursed by our human condition, we are aware of our existence, mortality, decay, etc, while being able to think about the past, to think on how things could have happened in another way, to relive our traumatic events, etc. None of this has anything to do with capitalism
 
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I don't think there is a perfect system, but how about a balanced society? A good mix of capitalism and socialism. Enough capitalism to encourage economic growth and innovation. Enough socialism to ensure relative equality and opportunity. A society where corporate greed doesn't come at the painful expense of the people.

Basically something more like Denmark, and less like America or Soviet union. Denmark still has a capitalist economy, but it is controlled so that it doesn't become a free for all like it is in america. The rich and able people pay relatively high taxes so that money gets redistributed in the form of strong public safety net. School and college are free, universal healthcare, and so many strong social support. What that translates to is a society with relative equality in opportunity and quality of life. Denmark still has billionaires, millionaires, and even the old royalty and aristocracy, but their society has achieve one of the most equal and highest quality of life on earth so far.
 
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Capitalism is just a symptom of a much more pernicious problem: human nature.
Agreed! All the woes of the world come from the fact that basically in our nature we are actually just greedy, selfish little shitmonkeys; ranking ourselves in a totally unnecessary and barely logical hierarchy, pretending to be all clever and sophisticated while flinging handfuls of shit at each other :pfff:

I mean yeah there are the inspired, compassionate, nice bits too but let’s face it if that was the prevailing theme most of us prolly wouldn’t be here right now
 
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As much as I don't like capitalism and want its demise, I don't think it will stop some people to suicide. I believe when welfare is the priority, it will reducing people's suffering that may lead them to suicide, yet some people still want to die regardless.
 
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Well, capitalism is not the only problem I'm afraid. Illness, lost of people we love, or just not fitting is the cases can lead to suicide. Capitalism makes all things worst, except for the few how lead the system like bankers or their politicians puppets.
 
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It’s not capitalism that does this. We have not had free market capitalism in many decades. Free market capitalism is where there is no government involvement in the market economy. What we have in the US is fascism, communism, and socialism. Pretty much all the same. Most other places are not free market either because of central government and central banking. The ruling class graduallly takes away freedom so slowly that u don’t realize u had been living under socialism which means slavery this whole time.
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Strongly agree, I know that my opinion is not going to be very popular, but capitalism is nothing more than people making voluntary agreements.

But 100% capitalism does not exist anywhere in the world, since the market is regulated by the government, depending on the degree of intervention of this government we can say that there is more or less capitalism. The most capitalist countries have more life expectancy and live better than in the less capitalist countries, including the poorest of these societies.
 
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Don't wanna be rude but you don't have socialism and it seems like you don't know what it is and how it works. Socialism make things like healthcare possible, and for all, for example. And literally saves hundreds of thousands lives per year in a countries like mine.It's about not leaving anyone behind. The weak, the defenseless, the poor...

Capitalism (as an ideology) is not particularly bad, just like communism ; it's when it happens that it become crazy and unfair. In US, it seems that capitalism ruins lives and get the rich people richer. How many citizen lose their homes because of capitalism? How many people are stuck in debts because of capitalism? How many kids won't get a proper education because it's so expensive, and will be stuck in poverty?

I don't say any system is totally fair or totally unfair (especially when it's just a concept), all have flaw . But when it comes to reality, I really prefer socialism over capitalism.
 
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Yeah, sure. No internet, no food, no meds, no toilet paper, seems cool. ctb wouldn't exist because you would die before from starvation
 
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