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Anyone else trying to use the Law of Attraction as a last ditch effort before you CTB

socrates

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I imagine that many of you probably think LOA is a bunch of BS, but I want to believe in something beyond the material, otherwise I feel like life would be pointless. I have a vision of what I want my life to look like. It's not toi crazy, but right for me. I'm trying to take a good step towards it by the winter solstice, and among other things I'm trying to use LOA to make it happen. I don't know if I'll definitely CTB if it doesn't happen, but I refuse to live another year stuck like this.
 
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I share stuff on Facebook that’s deemed negative and I have had numerous times been told to stop being so negative think positive and positive things will happen. Even had a ‘ friend’ remove me from hers because it drags her down apparently . Meh. Good luck to you though
 
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I share stuff on Facebook that’s deemed negative and I have had numerous times been told to stop being so negative think positive and positive things will happen. Even had a ‘ friend’ remove me from hers because it drags her down apparently . Meh. Good luck to you though
It sucks that you lost a facebook friend bc of you "negative" posts. That's for the well wishes!
 
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Because of OCD, I have feelings that I attract specific events, by thinking specific thoughts, but those are just feelings.
 
StrokeMyEgoBaby

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It's BS, you don't attract money by thinking about them, you do stuff, to make money.
I believe LOA has some truth to it.
It has something to do with quantum physics, the energy vibration and whatnot.
Who said humans knows everything beyond explanation? Things like ultralights they are there, just coz you dont see them doesn't mean they dont exist.

I wouldn't say i successfully utilised LOA, but I've been positive enough through a previous period of my life that I attracted a few job opportunities that wouldn't have been possible otherwise.

Also been seeing 1111/1110 these type of numbers randomly from time to time, but thats a story for another time.
 
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Hey I tried applying the basis of the LOA regarding something and it’s happened to me! Tho Not sure if it’s a coincidence, luck or sarcasm from the universe

Coincidence.
It has something to do with quantum physics, the energy vibration and whatnot.

Watch this.
Also been seeing 1111/1110 these type of numbers randomly from time to time, but thats a story for another time.
It's called synchronicity. I was hyped on those, when I had a psychosis. I thought that angels were talking to me by showing me numbers. You can google "angel numbers", to see what I'm talking about.
 
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I feel like with LOA, if you are a non-believer, at least it gets you in a positive mood so that you actively seeks out things, if that makes sense.
There has to be a physical effort for things to be manifested.
 
Stavrogin

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Those who peddle the idea of LOA are being cruel in my opinion (not you), wilfully or otherwise.
 
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Coincidence.

It's called synchronicity. I was hyped on those, when I had a psychosis. I thought that angels were talking to me by showing me numbers. You can google "angel numbers", to see what I'm talking about.
Yes. You are right.
It could also be a thing.
Hard to interpret sometimes though.
 
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I believe LOA has some truth to it.
It has something to do with quantum physics, the energy vibration and whatnot.
Who said humans knows everything beyond explanation? Things like ultralights they are there, just coz you dont see them doesn't mean they dont exist.

I wouldn't say i successfully utilised LOA, but I've been positive enough through a previous period of my life that I attracted a few job opportunities that wouldn't have been possible otherwise.

Also been seeing 1111/1110 these type of numbers randomly from time to time, but thats a story for another time.
I've been seeing 1111 everywhere lately and I have no idea what it means.
 
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Just wanna say that I hated this vid
The dude tells the truth though, and I speak from experience, when I was in psychosis, I have seen coincidences all over the place, on the plate numbers on cars, on the internet, everywhere, but turned out that it was a bunch of bs.
 
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The dude tells the truth though, and I speak from experience, when I was in psychosis, I seen coincidences all over the place, on the plate numbers on cars, on the internet, everywhere, but turned out that it was a bunch of bs.
I’m not a conspiracy theories fanatic, definitely not religious and never been diagnosed with psychosis or ocd but I’d like to believe in a higher power than myself. The vid sounds reasonable and makes sense just the guy himself gives off weird vibes. I can imagine how exhausting it can be to constantly obsess with looking for “signs” or try to pick up on “coincidence” and such.
 
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I’m not a conspiracy theories fanatic, definitely not religious and never been diagnosed with psychosis or ocd but I’d like to believe in a higher power than myself. The vid sounds reasonable and makes sense just the guy himself gives off weird vibes. I can imagine how exhausting it can be to constantly obsess with looking for “signs” or try to pick up on “coincidence” and such.
I'm an atheist, but was a christian during psychosis, so I know both sides, lol. I was looking for hidden messages from god, in the car number plates.
 
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I'm an atheist, but was a christian during psychosis, so I know both sides, lol. I was looking for hidden messages from god, in the car number plates.
Intersting.
I'm also atheist. I'd probably regard LOA as a religion alternative.
They have limitations and yet to be backed up by scientific proofs.
Whatever works best, I guess.
 
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1. Law of Attraction is true and our thoughts have tangible effects on our reality.

2. Law of Attraction is a victim-blaming cult that insinuates you 'deserve' bad things that happen to you because you clearly weren't believing hard enough.

Both of these things are true.

I think the easiest way for people in our situations to examine the law of attraction is not the benefits but the so-called 'negative'. For me personally it became clear that the daily misery I was living in mentally was having tangible effects on my life circumstances, multiplying itself and 'attracting' the very things I was giving myself such anguish by constantly dwelling on them. This culminated in actual, physical effects on my perception of reality that were so severe it was undeniable.

That said, think of children. A war orphan who steps on a land mine, is it their fault? Do they not regrow their leg because they just didn't have enough faith that things would work out for them? Children are the most convinced that everything is going to work out just fine for them of any group, that they are immortal and deserve only good things, right up until the point where they find out the universe doesn't work exactly like they believe.

STILL, the basic idea that bad attracts bad and good can attract more good? It's true and helpful. Your mind, thinking, 'today, I will become more wealthy' in a mantra, is more likely to be open to possibilities that misery would simply filter out, more likely to notice a 20 dollar bill on the street, more likely to take a risk that could pay off, etc. I'm explaining this quite poorly but hopefully it comes through.

The other problem comes with what I often see in followers of the actual LoA group, eckhart tolle, etc. Because bad thought attracts bad, they *avoid* it, they ignore it, try to shut it out and pretend that everything is only good all the time, because to see even one bad thought from another person could 'infect' them, which causes both a lack of empathy and compassion for those in need around them, and a lack of action against problems in the world that need addressing in favor of selfish positive thought. Those obnoxious 'good vibes only' people on facebook, but taken to the extreme

Despite all this, the one resonating truth is that the mind has power, our thoughts have power, and they do and can determine the world around us.

The incredible animated show Midnight Gospel puts it something like:
"When someone asks you if you're sick, and you're sick, you can't just say 'no I'm not', but you say 'I'm getting better every day.'"

And it works.

If you want a useful way to try to direct your thoughts toward good results and aren't sure how to start, and aren't scared off by anything too 'out there', one thing to try looking into is 'sigil work', explained in absolute barebones (and a little humorous) form here.
 
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Here is why LOA fails for one thing: You have a subconscious mind that takes up about 90% of your thoughts only you are not in control of them or aware of them.

I will tell you what worked for me: the Wishing Machine I built.
 
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Here is why LOA fails for one thing: You have a subconscious mind that takes up about 90% of your thoughts only you are not in control of them or aware of them.

I will tell you what worked for me: the Wishing Machine I built.
Tell me more. Can i wish for death with it? Can i build it and will it work? I wish i was joking at this point
 
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1. Law of Attraction is true and our thoughts have tangible effects on our reality.

2. Law of Attraction is a victim-blaming cult that insinuates you 'deserve' bad things that happen to you because you clearly weren't believing hard enough.

Both of these things are true.

I think the easiest way for people in our situations to examine the law of attraction is not the benefits but the so-called 'negative'. For me personally it became clear that the daily misery I was living in mentally was having tangible effects on my life circumstances, multiplying itself and 'attracting' the very things I was giving myself such anguish by constantly dwelling on them. This culminated in actual, physical effects on my perception of reality that were so severe it was undeniable.

That said, think of children. A war orphan who steps on a land mine, is it their fault? Do they not regrow their leg because they just didn't have enough faith that things would work out for them? Children are the most convinced that everything is going to work out just fine for them of any group, that they are immortal and deserve only good things, right up until the point where they find out the universe doesn't work exactly like they believe.

STILL, the basic idea that bad attracts bad and good can attract more good? It's true and helpful. Your mind, thinking, 'today, I will become more wealthy' in a mantra, is more likely to be open to possibilities that misery would simply filter out, more likely to notice a 20 dollar bill on the street, more likely to take a risk that could pay off, etc. I'm explaining this quite poorly but hopefully it comes through.

The other problem comes with what I often see in followers of the actual LoA group, eckhart tolle, etc. Because bad thought attracts bad, they *avoid* it, they ignore it, try to shut it out and pretend that everything is only good all the time, because to see even one bad thought from another person could 'infect' them, which causes both a lack of empathy and compassion for those in need around them, and a lack of action against problems in the world that need addressing in favor of selfish positive thought. Those obnoxious 'good vibes only' people on facebook, but taken to the extreme

Despite all this, the one resonating truth is that the mind has power, our thoughts have power, and they do and can determine the world around us.

The incredible animated show Midnight Gospel puts it something like:
"When someone asks you if you're sick, and you're sick, you can't just say 'no I'm not', but you say 'I'm getting better every day.'"

And it works.

If you want a useful way to try to direct your thoughts toward good results and aren't sure how to start, and aren't scared off by anything too 'out there', one thing to try looking into is 'sigil work', explained in absolute barebones (and a little humorous) form here.
Well worded, and important to remember. Self-sabotaging and catastrophism have real destructive consequences. Hope and kindness have real constructive consequences. When we're in a negative spiral, it can be so easy to make or perceive things to be worse for ourselves and others. And likewise the opposite. If you can do one positive thing, it might just affect the world to make it a little bit better, or give a person a little light with which to go on their way. LOA is worth it for that humble purpose alone. Try to leave the world a little better than when you came into it.
 
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Humans are pattern recognition monkeys, with imperfect pattern recognition skills, they see meaning, where there isn't any.
Tbh. People will make meaning out of literally anything no matter how meaningless it is. That's not to day positive thinking isn't a good step towards self improvement though; by believing that more positive things are happening around you Due to your focus on them you may improve your overall mood which can help sustain motivation, and motivation actually can lead to good things happening.

Magical stuff is probably BS, but use your emotions regardless.
 
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Magical stuff is probably BS, but use your emotions regardless.
Magician Aleister Crowley said it like this:
“In this book it is spoken of the sephiroth and the paths, of spirits and conjurations, of gods, spheres, and planes and many other things which may or may not exist. It is immaterial whether they exist or not. By doing certain things, certain results follow; students are most earnestly warned against attributing objective reality or philosophical validity to any of them.”
 
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1. Law of Attraction is true and our thoughts have tangible effects on our reality.

2. Law of Attraction is a victim-blaming cult that insinuates you 'deserve' bad things that happen to you because you clearly weren't believing hard enough.

Both of these things are true.

I think the easiest way for people in our situations to examine the law of attraction is not the benefits but the so-called 'negative'. For me personally it became clear that the daily misery I was living in mentally was having tangible effects on my life circumstances, multiplying itself and 'attracting' the very things I was giving myself such anguish by constantly dwelling on them. This culminated in actual, physical effects on my perception of reality that were so severe it was undeniable.

That said, think of children. A war orphan who steps on a land mine, is it their fault? Do they not regrow their leg because they just didn't have enough faith that things would work out for them? Children are the most convinced that everything is going to work out just fine for them of any group, that they are immortal and deserve only good things, right up until the point where they find out the universe doesn't work exactly like they believe.

STILL, the basic idea that bad attracts bad and good can attract more good? It's true and helpful. Your mind, thinking, 'today, I will become more wealthy' in a mantra, is more likely to be open to possibilities that misery would simply filter out, more likely to notice a 20 dollar bill on the street, more likely to take a risk that could pay off, etc. I'm explaining this quite poorly but hopefully it comes through.

The other problem comes with what I often see in followers of the actual LoA group, eckhart tolle, etc. Because bad thought attracts bad, they *avoid* it, they ignore it, try to shut it out and pretend that everything is only good all the time, because to see even one bad thought from another person could 'infect' them, which causes both a lack of empathy and compassion for those in need around them, and a lack of action against problems in the world that need addressing in favor of selfish positive thought. Those obnoxious 'good vibes only' people on facebook, but taken to the extreme

Despite all this, the one resonating truth is that the mind has power, our thoughts have power, and they do and can determine the world around us.

The incredible animated show Midnight Gospel puts it something like:
"When someone asks you if you're sick, and you're sick, you can't just say 'no I'm not', but you say 'I'm getting better every day.'"

And it works.

If you want a useful way to try to direct your thoughts toward good results and aren't sure how to start, and aren't scared off by anything too 'out there', one thing to try looking into is 'sigil work', explained in absolute barebones (and a little humorous) form here.
I believe that genuine confidence or some kind of mental 'zone' probably influences your behavior or ability, but I don't believe that it's something you can think; I think it has to be something you genuinely, subconsciously believe.
Firstly because our subconscious mind makes decisions before we consciously think them, and secondly because of the profound effect that the circumstances that put you into your mindset in the first place have. I know that thinking encouraging or confident thoughts to myself haven't had an effect on my performance on tasks or my motivation to keep going, and I also know that when I have done something risky or confident, it was because my mood at the time meant that any thoughts to the contrary simply bounced off of me or didn't even occur. This is essentially how I began exercising; the promise of mental salvation meant that the thought of exhaustion simply bounced off.
When it comes to mindset, I believe that the event comes before the attitude, of course, so unfortunate events create a pessimistic attitude. But the idea that your attitude can change isn't exactly a saving grace when a negative attitude means fatigue and unwillingness to jump through the hoops that are deemed necessary for happiness. If happiness requires a mental solution, then it's just unfortunate that mental illness destroys the mental tools needed for the job. That being said, I don't think things like your views on the fundamental aspects of life will be very much affected by attitude, if that's a factor, nor do I think you can just decide that you like something; otherwise I'd decide to like being homeless and go out on the street right away.
 

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