[Discussion] Afterlife (and related) general discussion

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Jumper Geo

Jumper Geo

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If your going to CTB soon, you need to see this there is nothing to be afraid of in the afterlife:haha:


Your welcome

Best wishes

Geo
 
Jumper Geo

Jumper Geo

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Here's another good rebirth story. tbh I'm not frightened whatever is waiting for us even if it's nothing, we are all going to experience it.If there is rebirth I don't understand why we go through life with pleasure and pain but we don't remember it in the next life I can't remember sod all, maybe it's got something to do with your intelligence level you have on Earth each time we evolve slightly.


Cheers Geo
 
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ExitStageLeft

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Recall that in Buddhism, "you" do not exist. The prevailing doctrine in Buddhism is anatman, no-self or no-soul. "You" do not even exist moment from moment, and "you" are just a constellation of desires, attachments, influences, conditions, etc., all of which are temporary. Thus, even if "you" are reborn - if "you" subjectively perceive yourself to exist again - "you" will have undergone so many changes from one condition to the other as to not effectively remember any of them anyway; a conscious core may endure death, but it will be so changed as to not functionally be you any longer. And rebirth, among those Buddhists who do believe in it, is seen as a "failure" state - you are reborn because you still possess desires, attachments, and so on.

For Hindus, on the other hand, there is a core self which transmigrates, but this transmigration is not instantaneous, and the physical life is ephemeral. You will undergo so many experiences in the afterlife that your current biological existence will be functionally irrelevant to your future existence, except for the karma which you have cultivated today. There are so many different possible and fundamentally incompatible forms of being in Hinduism that you cannot recall them all, because the memories are incompatible with you as you are now.

In neither view is rebirth/reincarnation taken to be a good thing.

And of course there is the atheistic reincarnation theorem, which I hold to - Poincare's recurrence theorem. Which states that you, exactly as you are, will exist again as the universe cycles through a finite but nearly-unlimited number of possible states. Which, clearly, is not a good thing from your perspective if you're on this forum.
 
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Honestly thinking about the afterlife scares me. I'm not super religious, but I do believe there's some supernatural being that created the universe. I like to believe in more of a good and a bad place, rather than heaven and hell. And that it works on a sliding scale. You can go up and down in this current life and in the afterlife based on your actions. You could be great in this life, end up in a good place and then be awful there and be sent to a bad place and visa versa. I'm just scared that I'll be punished or something for ctb. Or that my soul will roam the earth and I'll see the aftermath I've left behind.
 
Jumper Geo

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Honestly thinking about the afterlife scares me. I'm not super religious, but I do believe there's some supernatural being that created the universe. I like to believe in more of a good and a bad place, rather than heaven and hell. And that it works on a sliding scale. You can go up and down in this current life and in the afterlife based on your actions. You could be great in this life, end up in a good place and then be awful there and be sent to a bad place and visa versa. I'm just scared that I'll be punished or something for ctb. Or that my soul will roam the earth and I'll see the aftermath I've left behind.
I wouldn't be frightened of the afterlife if there is one we will all go to a better place there are a lot of religions that believe in karma and rebirth, so if your good in this life you will be rewarded in the next but others say it's the Soul trying to experience different things happiness, sorrow and pain but there may be nothing in which case watch films before you were born and imagine, you never felt no pain as you never existed so please don't fret we all die eventually..
 
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Jumper Geo

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I like Ghost stories so when they come from famous people I find them even more interesting that everyone can have that spooky encounter, your obviously going to get a few who want the media attention or a quick payday, so what one's do you believe, :haha: :haha: :haha:



I had a spooky encounter when I was a young boy I would swear of my life but being on SS no would believe me, lol, but I am telling the truth I was in bed and woke up and there was his glowing white figure no eyes, nose, mouth etc just this solid white figure, I sat up in bed and then I felt really calm and relaxed and laid back down and woke up in the morning it could have been a dream but I am in my late 40's now and nothing like it has ever happened again.

Cheers Geo
 

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I want to believe that after I die, the afterlife is something like an endless lucid dream, where I can create and do just about anything. Like a sandbox game and you're the god of your own world. I can create the most perfect experiences, and I can make it so I ignore the fact that this is all made up myself. I guess I'm just trying to make up for the shitty stuff that happened and trying to create a more perfect life, or just doing all the many things that I've never got to do, trying to make up for a life less lived I guess.
 
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zeroambition

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Richard Martini's answer to a question on Quora really gives me comfort:

This idea put forth by some folks - that reincarnation is a “trap” or a cycle that we get “trapped in” - isn’t in the research. (That is the thousands of deep hypnosis cases from Dr. Helen Wambach and Michael Newton, and the 45 cases I’ve filmed). What people consistently say is that we “choose to incarnate.” That we choose to come here. That we choose to “take the elevator” down to this planet, and when we’re done, we “head back home.” (That’s not my words, it’s what people consistently say under deep hypnosis no matter what their religion or background.)

So if what these thousands of people are saying is accurate - that we choose to incarnate, that we do so with the guidance and suggestions of our loved one and guides, that it reportedly has nothing to do with accumulated “karma” or “debt” - it’s worth noting that they claim that we may choose a particular journey that deals with issues that we may want to learn or teach, including “compassion” “courage” “letting go” or other topics like “addiction” (some of the reports that I’ve filmed claimed they have had multiple lifetimes exploring various topics).

Further that we don’t have to return here. We have other “options.” So if you don’t like the cycle or reincarnation for any reason, there’s no one telling you that you have to stay in it. The reports are that everyone chooses to come here - and if someone has a problem with why they’re doing it, they can take it up with their guides. (“What was I thinking?” is a common question.)

The only liberation from reincarnation is the kind that we’ve just done - liberating everyone reading this sentence from the illusion or concept that they’re forced to return here. It’s just not in the research, and if you don’t believe me, check into it for yourself. It’s not my theory, belief or opinion these people say these things (that are consistent and reproducible) I’m just reporting.
 
Jumper Geo

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Thanks for reminding me as soon as i see my spirit guide they are going to get a smack in the mouth or I will pull there wings off.

I believe in rebirth I think we have been here before and had good and bad experiences but i'm confused why a soul has to experience raping and murdering babies, I like to think we will reunite with family and friends in the afterlife and be in paradise until we feel healed and ready to return to Earth.
 
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Anyone excited to see what their “life review” or life flashback will be like the moment they are ending their life ? I’m curious what my brain will bring up as a flashback of memories occur while I die. Like if I jump off a bridge I’ll have that moment where my life flashes before my eyes as I am plunging into the water. I hope I’ll actually have the guts to do it someday tho. I’ve been considering this for years but I’m scared, nervous, and anxious ! :((
 
Freudite

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I don't believe in the notion of heaven and hell personally. The concept of infinite pleasures or infinite pain just seems too far-fetched for me. Although a good part of me wants to believe that after death there is nothing, my gut instinct always leans towards us just coming back into another life, be it a reliving of this current life or another person entirely.

Everyone here has interesting thoughts and ideas on what happens after death, it's nice to read all the different perspectives.
 
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SpareWheel

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Just my view, but I believe there's nothing once you've gone, like blacking out drunk, you're just not there anymore only there's no chance of waking up with a bad hangover. At least I really hope this is the case, I'll be mortified if I manage to end it all only to find there's an afterlife. I just to want to switch off like a light, there one minute and then completely gone.
 
Corpsegrinder

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I don't believe in an afterlife or anything but if there is heaven and hell or something i wanna go to neither and just be a ghost that terrorizes people n shit
 
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I like Ghost stories so when they come from famous people I find them even more interesting that everyone can have that spooky encounter, your obviously going to get a few who want the media attention or a quick payday, so what one's do you believe, :haha: :haha: :haha:



I had a spooky encounter when I was a young boy I would swear of my life but being on SS no would believe me, lol, but I am telling the truth I was in bed and woke up and there was his glowing white figure no eyes, nose, mouth etc just this solid white figure, I sat up in bed and then I felt really calm and relaxed and laid back down and woke up in the morning it could have been a dream but I am in my late 40's now and nothing like it has ever happened again.

Cheers Geo
Wow, thank you for sharing your experience. I have heard similar experiences to yours. Hearing/experiencing them makes one think about afterlife.
Hmm I don't know what happens in the afterlife. But I hope it's better than life on earth.
Hi RationalGirl, I don't know either, but it has always interested me since I was a child. I have attached a link from YouTube from a very well known doctor and his research into afterlife. Here it is: Near Death Experience Raymond Moody M.D., PhD.
 
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SpareWheel

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Anyone excited to see what their “life review” or life flashback will be like the moment they are ending their life ? I’m curious what my brain will bring up as a flashback of memories occur while I die. Like if I jump off a bridge I’ll have that moment where my life flashes before my eyes as I am plunging into the water. I hope I’ll actually have the guts to do it someday tho. I’ve been considering this for years but I’m scared, nervous, and anxious ! :((
I want mine to be like a Rocky montage, with Survivor or Chicago playing - me looking all determined and tough while I have flashbacks of the time I ran 50 metres for a bus. Doo doo doo, getting strong now....
 
bunny mage

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Logically probably nothing. No use for our brains or bones any more.

Emotionally, I’d love to end up in a sandbox universe. Be restored to full health at a certain point in your life but it’s a clone of the universe you just left behind and you can shape everything to your will.

I know that probably sounds really megalomaniacal but id have control over something for once. I’d be free of the world I left behind. and I’d be at a situation it wouldn’t really hurt anyone else since the clones wouldn’t be really real for anyone but myself.
 
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Logically probably nothing. No use for our brains or bones any more.

Emotionally, I’d love to end up in a sandbox universe. Be restored to full health at a certain point in your life but it’s a clone of the universe you just left behind and you can shape everything to your will.

I know that probably sounds really megalomaniacal but id have control over something for once. I’d be free of the world I left behind. and I’d be at a situation it wouldn’t really hurt anyone else since the clones wouldn’t be really real for anyone but myself.
You sound awfully pessimistic! I’ve read that book mentioned above too (the Near Death Experiences) and it seems to be reassuring that there is in fact an afterlife! ^_^
 
bunny mage

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You sound awfully pessimistic! I’ve read that book mentioned above too (the Near Death Experiences) and it seems to be reassuring that there is in fact an afterlife! ^_^
No book will reassure me of how things will go until I experience it for myself unfortunately. I’m awful dubious of just accepting that sort of thing.
 
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I like the eternal oblivion theory and It seems to me that is the most logical one, you simply cease to exist and everything you were just disappears. I don't see how we'd have this kind of "immortal" consciousness that lives on forever, yet sometimes I like to think our loved ones that died are in someway looking over us or protecting us, its a comforting thought. Hell and being tormented and burned for eternity sounds awful, so I hope that's not really an actual thing.
 
Green Destiny

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I don't believe that there's anything after we die. However if there is I put more stock in us choosing our own type of paradise, not living in clouds and angels and all that other stuff. But i'm still leaning towards total oblivion after I die.