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S1mpleme

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Before I CTB I want to leave everything I own to someone, but obviously I can't do the paperwork while I'm alive cause it's gonna be very suspicious why am I doing it. The only thing I can do probably is just to leave a suicide note with the list of things and names, but not sure if that's enough to make those people to be owners of my stuff. Besides that I don't want funeral and let those assholes to use my money for it, I better give it to someone who's alive and really in need. I hope they won't ask those people in the suicide note to pay for me. Also I own property outside US and I want to do something with it too. So if you know about the laws in the US related to suicide please share. Thanks.
 
Grandexit

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Umm, more info needed.
How old are you? Over 18?
Make a will. See an estate planning attorney, draft a legal will. You have attorney client privilege. They’re not going to run down the street yelling out your business.

Don’t specifically tell them you’re going to cbt, but anyone with assets it’s a good idea to have a legal will prepared whether you are 18 or 80. You can leave a copy of your will with any letters. You can even use a service like legal zoom dot com to do a will and an advance directive with a dnr.

Also, update your accounts (checking, savings 401k, brokerage accounts and so on) with a designated payee (beneficiary). If your assets are sizeable or complex, you may even go the trust route. You will need a trustee, and lots of paperwork, (zero stealth), bit it will keep your assets out of probate.

Time to hit the internet and research estate planning. Don’t use google. Duck duck go is the better search engine
 
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S1mpleme

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Yes, I'm over 18. Not sure if it's safe enough to see a lawyer. I really don't want to talk to someone, just anonimously let those people be the owners.
 
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There are online sources for creating your own will, which you can have notarized. You can leave it out where you ctb.

I would suggest that you can hide a backup copy, and send a delayed email to someone you trust as to where to find it. Then if your ctb is unsuccessful or you abort, you can cancel the email. If you're not able to cancel it because of being in a hospital or ward, wouldn't they already know anyway that you had attempted?
 
Racee

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If you are anxious about anything just write it up and get it notarized. Having paper notarized still means something in this country if for nothing else . You can write it up yourself said however.
 
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S1mpleme

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I don't have anyone who would give a shit about my life, but I have really bad feelings talking to someone about this. I don't want a lawyer or someone else to call police about me or just answer that stupid questions. I don't want the government to take everything, I willing to leave it to other people.
If you are anxious about anything just write it up and get it notarized. Having paper notarized still means something in this country if for nothing else . You can write it up yourself said however.
To notarize something I have to show the paper, right? To get the stamp. And if so that means that whoever will notarize that must see and read it as witness.
 
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Yes, I'm over 18. Not sure if it's safe enough to see a lawyer. I really don't want to talk to someone, just anonimously let those people be the owners.
I don’t understand what you think will happen if you see an attorney. It’s perfectly safe (and a grownup thing to do) to see a lawyer or use legal zoom .Com. Look up what attorney client privilege means. Lawyers aren't mandated reporters like shrinks. And you’re not going to tell them you’re planning to cbt. You’re just protecting your assets. If it’s important to you, it’s important to do it correctly. A suicide letter carries zero legal force. Nobody has to abide by anything written in one. The police may seize it as evidence. A will does carry legal force.

But like I said, go do your homework and research estate planning.
 
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I don't have anyone who would give a shit about my life, but I have really bad feelings talking to someone about this. I don't want a lawyer or someone else to call police about me or just answer that stupid questions. I don't want the government to take everything, I willing to leave it to other people.

To notarize something I have to show the paper, right? To get the stamp. And if so that means that whoever will notarize that must see and read it as witness.
Than become a notary if your that worried it’s easy and quick no one really don’t care what they are stamping I know quite a lot it’s just payday to them . But good luck
 
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As the beneficiary of a trust, I have to warn you to go with a very reliable trustee. Otherwise, your wishes won’t be fulfilled.
Or, you could make your beneficiary the trustee and then they would have control of their own money. I’m pretty sure you can do that. My husband made me the beneficiary, but appointed a friend of his the trustee. He told me all these things that she was going to do with the money that she never did. She is supposed to be keeping me updated on how much money I have and what’s going on with the trust and I haven’t heard a thing from her since April of last year, before tax day. I don’t even know if I paid taxes on the trust last year. I do get regular payments because she set them up on auto pay, but I’m sure that when the money runs out it will just stop coming. I probably won’t get any warning or anything from her. She keeps complaining about what a burden it is for her to be the trustee and how I don’t appreciate all the work she’s done, but as far as I can tell she hasn’t done anything except put the money in a savings account and forget about it.
And none of that should’ve happened to begin with because my husband really didn’t leave behind enough money to justify putting it in a trust. His lawyer lied to him and told him that a trust was the way that would keep me protected, but I would’ve been just as protected if he had given me the money directly and I didn’t have to go begging the trustee for it.
And in the immediate aftermath of my husband‘s death, I had to hire my own lawyer and waste a bunch of money fighting his daughter because she coerced my husband into making her a co- trustee and then, after he passed away, she attempted to take all the money for herself and leave me with nothing.
Luckily, she was forced to resign as a trustee and I no longer have to deal with her. Now I only have to deal with my husband’s friend who, while she isn’t trying to steal what little money I have, she’s also not doing even the minimal things that she supposed to be doing as a trustee which is keeping me informed at all times of what’s going on and of how much money there is in the trust.
Than become a notary if your that worried it’s easy and quick no one really don’t care what they are stamping I know quite a lot it’s just payday to them . But good luck
I had to see a notary to get some papers stamped. They don’t read the papers. @Racee is correct. They just stamp the papers. They don’t care what’s on them.
 
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As the beneficiary of a trust, I have to warn you to go with a very reliable trustee. Otherwise, your wishes won’t be fulfilled.
Or, you could make your beneficiary the trustee and then they would have control of their own money. I’m pretty sure you can do that. My husband made me the beneficiary, but appointed a friend of his the trustee. He told me all these things that she was going to do with the money that she never did. She is supposed to be keeping me updated on how much money I have and what’s going on with the trust and I haven’t heard a thing from her since April of last year, before tax day. I don’t even know if I paid taxes on the trust last year. I do get regular payments because she set them up on auto pay, but I’m sure that when the money runs out it will just stop coming. I probably won’t get any warning or anything from her. She keeps complaining about what a burden it is for her to be the trustee and how I don’t appreciate all the work she’s done, but as far as I can tell she hasn’t done anything except put the money in a savings account and forget about it.
And none of that should’ve happened to begin with because my husband really didn’t leave behind enough money to justify putting it in a trust. His lawyer lied to him and told him that a trust was the way that would keep me protected, but I would’ve been just as protected if he had given me the money directly and I didn’t have to go begging the trustee for it.
And in the immediate aftermath of my husband‘s death, I had to hire my own lawyer and waste a bunch of money fighting his daughter because she coerced my husband into making her a co- trustee and then, after he passed away, she attempted to take all the money for herself and leave me with nothing.
Luckily, she was forced to resign as a trustee and I no longer have to deal with her. Now I only have to deal with my husband’s friend who, while she isn’t trying to steal what little money I have, she’s also not doing even the minimal things that she supposed to be doing as a trustee which is keeping me informed at all times of what’s going on and of how much money there is in the trust.

I had to see a notary to get some papers stamped. They don’t read the papers. @Racee is correct. They just stamp the papers. They don’t care what’s on them.
Thanks for info, but I can count on myself, I don't have anyone I can trust anything.
 
AlreadyGone

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There are online sources for creating your own will, which you can have notarized. You can leave it out where you ctb.

I would suggest that you can hide a backup copy, and send a delayed email to someone you trust as to where to find it. Then if your ctb is unsuccessful or you abort, you can cancel the email. If you're not able to cancel it because of being in a hospital or ward, wouldn't they already know anyway that you had attempted?
The only issue with the will is that depending on what State you are in, you will need to have witnesses who must be present when the will is notarized. It can come off as suspicious unless you can hire a lawyer to be your witness.
 
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S1mpleme

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Life is beautiful, isn't it? Even things you own can't just leave for someone, it always must be complicated.
 
Racee

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it’s always complicated till it isn’t , and if it isn’t , than your probably already dead.
 
Tempeste

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You don't need a lawyer.

Write out your will, there's free templates everywhere. Get it notarized. A private notary of court clear that's a notary can do that, $5. Done.

You may also want to prepare advance directives.

People do this everyday. I you're concerned about arousing suspicion you can always say you just lost an extended family member very young and it occurred to you that everyone should have their affairs in order.

@Racee becoming a notary won't help. You can't notarize your own documents.
 
ChristopherWalken

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I used Quicken Willmaker and it was a snap to go through the whole process of making a will. There might be a free online will-making thing but not sure I would trust it. Then just go to UPS store and have them notarize it. They're always busy af in there and they don't read anything. It's just a will anyway everyone is supposed to have them. Hell I even went ahead and did the Living Trust later to make sure if my attempt puts me into a vegetative state they will pull the plug on me. There may be some more stuff you want to specify that wasn't included in the will that you can write a letter for. Notary might read this but if they even dared to ask a question about it (which they should be trained not to do), you can just say you found out you have a terminal condition.
 
ThatIsTheQuestion

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Half the job of a good notary is not reading anything they stamp. If they did, they'd have to worry about being held legally responsible for every skeezy document that gets past them. Their job is to certify that you're the person signing the document, not to certify anything in the document. As far as that goes, you're safe.
 
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@Racee becoming a notary won't help. You can't notarize your own documents.
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Hahaha awe man thank you. I looked at what you said and thought “well of course you can’t” (than the lightbulb above my head clicked on)
 
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